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That isn't what the text says! The text says the God was going to see if it was actually as bad as He'd been told. It doesn't say that He was going to investigate whether they'd repent or not. It doesn't say that at all! More directly to the point, even if the text was somehow compatible with...

It is what the bible explicitly states, Derf! I mean, how much clearer do you need it to be? Do remember the contradiction for yours that I pointed out several days ago, where, in reference to Genesis 18:21, you said, "To me, the passage allows for God to have perfect past (and present)...

It makes perfect sense, Derf! You really are acting as if God is a mere man. You don't have any idea the extent of God's resources nor even the nature of those resources. This is what we know. The bible clearly teaches that God does not know everything there is to know. God is just. There will...

Nonsense. Do you believe that God is the only person in all of existence or what? Is there a thousand different possible sources of such information or is the number ten thousand or is it ten million or even billions? I mean, you seem to think that God is stupid or something! Think it...

What He doesn't know, He is able to find out, Derf! Seriously now, how is that a difficult concept? By what means do you believe it even possible to keep a secret from God? Guilty people know what they've done and God is definitely able to know the thoughts of men. We've already discussed the...

Right. As I said, in a big picture, over the long term sort of way. Yes, "all things" is clearly a figure of speech. The bible is not a law book, right? God is allowed to speak in generalities. God is perfectly well capable of knowing what He needs to know, Derf! No one here is arguing that...

I agree that God did not "know" in the "with certainty" sense of that term but I do believe that He fully expected it and I think that expectation is part of why He chose Jonah to do the preaching. He for sure knew Jonah's heart and, I believe, saw an opportunity to kill two birds with one stone...

As I said, the promise most directly applies in a big picture sense. There are Christian people who are brutally tortured, raped, murdered and otherwise victimized every single day. God very simply is not working every evil act that victimizes a believer toward the good of that believer. That is...

Well, this doesn't seem to follow to me. Not everything that happens is worked by God for the good of anyone, except perhaps in a very broad, long term, big picture sense. I mean, babies are murdered every 30 seconds in this country alone. I can't see any evidence of God working gang activity...

That's not the only thing. You both post here. You both believe very similar things. You're both brilliantly articulate in expressing your doctrine and you're both fans of Bob Enyart and his ministry. From my perspective, you have more in common than not. You might as well be twins! Okay, maybe...

This would seem to suggest that we are merely concepts within God's mind. I just don't get it. I literally see nothing in what you've presented here that even suggests that we exist "internally to God". Creation isn't God and God did not create Himself. The problem here is that the baby is...

Yes! I meant Right Divider! I seem to always get you two mixed up!

Well, you might find it tedious but one of the major aspects of our doctrine is precisely the fact that it conforms itself to the limits of sound reason. It is a foundational principle of our hermeneutic as it ought to be for everyone who does theology. It is, therefore, something we naturally...

So I know JudgeRightly doesn't like doubt negatives but I just have to say that, as for me, double negatives have never been uncomfortable. You can feel free to not refrain from using them all you like as far as I'm concerned. ;)

It is considered so in error. Agreed! Please provide scriptural evidence that God is immutable in the classical sense of the word. (i.e. in the sense that God cannot change IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER.) If anyone does so, make sure I get some sort of notification of it so I can participate. In mean...

I couldn't follow this except for the last two sentences but even God gaining confirmation of their current state is enough to explode absolute omniscience and omnipresence.

That sentence isn't irrational at all. It's the connection to that idea to the ontological existence of time that has no foundation. Whether something is an "inescapable logical necessity" is NOT a matter of opinion. Indeed, it is the opposite of an opinion. If something is an "inescapable...

The problem is that the text explicitly states otherwise and the translation of the passage is a good one, by the way. It absolutely says.... "I will go down now and see"..."and if not, I will know". I know of no translation that renders it differently. There certainly is nothing in the text...

"Word" is flatly an incorrect English translation of "Logos"- period. The only reason anyone thinks otherwise is because they've grown comfortable with the way the famous passage sounds. It's like the mangy, three legged, blind dog that has stuck around long enough for people to grow...

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