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    Anyone ready a 2nd look at Sodom and G?

    The Strong's Concordance says regarding God in Genesis 1:1-3 says: I added a few things like spelling things out instead of using the Strong's abbreviations and my comments inside [...] 430 Elohiym - plural of the root word 433. [IOW ... a plural or sort of collective noun form...
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    Anyone ready a 2nd look at Sodom and G?

    His position is our choosing to worship him for he holds hope for us with reconciliation and the gift of eternal life where there will be no strife, sickness, and pain. I look forward to that. God did not create puppets but rather sentient individuals and then gave him the ability to choose him...
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    Anyone ready a 2nd look at Sodom and G?

    I'm not sure why you concluded this [you will bend your knee to any tyrant...} from the question I asked: "A man dares to hold God accountable for his behavior? Well, not sure I want to go down that trail ... in Ps 82 Satan did and it did not go well." As a believer I really think it is God who...
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    Anyone ready a 2nd look at Sodom and G?

    Yes. Love how you pay attention to detail ... and how you ask God for understanding. You are a seeker for sure... and I believe he will reveal truth to honest seekers. Well, a person could study the ancient word which was interpreted into English to mean "stood by him. That might be a good way...
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    Anyone ready a 2nd look at Sodom and G?

    I will simply say: You have not yet grasped the totality of what I believe about The One Spiritual God with his multiplicity of living essence/character. Nor understood how he created his ONE image to represent his being the ONE God ... but in addition had/has the ability to use that one image...
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    Anyone ready a 2nd look at Sodom and G?

    Hello SwordOfTruth. Thank you for joining this conversation. My perspective: Elohim Elohym is a collective noun. I pointed that out because I believe this about the ONE God. He is an invisible Spirit and scripture tells us HE IS LIFE. Every aspect of him is ALIVE. Whether you single out his...
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    Anyone ready a 2nd look at Sodom and G?

    Addressing- two things which were mentioned above. 1.) The three super-natural men were all addressed as LORD and lords. All three accepted worship from Abraham as he bowed to the ground and worshiped. The two, who went ahead into the city, met up with Lot at the city gate. The two lords again...
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    New look days of Noah and the sons of God

    I totally rewrote this post ... got way off topic... sorry. Rushing Yes, JudgeRightly, I thought I remembered you questioning whether what Adam said was present tense or not. I do understand when something is quoted as if it was spoken at the moment it took place versus when Moses relates...
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    Psalm 82 another look

    Hello out there. Are just bots stopping to fact check? Just wondering LOL. Some of the TOL members interested in, at least, checking out my threads would better understand from where I'm coming when I write responses if they checked out this thread. A number of my conclusions are based on this...
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    New look days of Noah and the sons of God

    Guess I should have said: IT/Adam's words were quoted as if Adam was making the statement exactly when things were happening. Of course, I know Moses wrote and informed us about what Adam had said long ago, but it was quoted as I've stated above. Here is a simple example. True Moses was...
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    New look days of Noah and the sons of God

    I believe the narrative in Ps 82 makes these points clear: God is the judge. Satan is standing before God pleading his own defense at this own trial. His defense is this: God you are an unjust judge ... the reason being that you accept "these persons" who are needy, poor, fatherless, in physical...
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    New look days of Noah and the sons of God

    Derf, I am sorry to say I have not had time to post. My life!!! So busy! Also I do not follow 7djengo7. When I first returned here to start posting again I ran across about 4 individuals who really were confrontational. They immediately labeled me as this and that and when one finally starting...
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    New look days of Noah and the sons of God

    To me "of this age" refers to the time between the Fall and expulsion from the Garden and to this day. The sons of this age refers to mortal sons of Adam. Yet, there is another "age" coming. The age of the Resurrection. After the resurrection of those who are worthy, things will be different...
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    New look days of Noah and the sons of God

    Well, yes... God had a language of some sort. In Fact, the WORD was God and was with God and God spoke things into existence. QUESTION: But does that rule out that humanity didn't? The human language began with Gen. 2:19. Moses pointed out the exact time this began. 19And out of the ground...
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    New look days of Noah and the sons of God

    Derf said: This doesn't seem to allow for the other interpretation that creates men in the garden besides Adam and Eve. My conclusions: God did not create other men in the Garden. The LORD did not need to breathe into the nostrils of any other...
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    New look days of Noah and the sons of God

    How do you delete an accidental "reply"???
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    I just hear this: Why was Satan told to partake of the ground?

    Is there a better punch line?
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    New look days of Noah and the sons of God

    No, I'm not confusing the two. So glad you asked this question. It gives me a chance to share more about how I see Gen. 1,2,3. Of course, I differ with some things I've typically heard. Here goes: PART ONE: FIRST ABOUT GEN ONE AND TWO ... THEN ABOUT GEN.3:20 at the bottom. Gen...
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    I just hear this: Why was Satan told to partake of the ground?

    ONE pink elephant. At least, that is what the Irishman said.
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