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So you think that God owes you the answers that you want?
You are very arrogant.
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Big bang... a big NO!
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You are very arrogant.
He wants me to know him, right? Then provide the info that will turn my head. He knows all in your theology, he won't be forcing me to believe anything or believe in him, just providing sufficient info (that he already knows I am seeking). 79 years and I am still waiting.
If your consider that arrogance---OK by me. If your god considers it arrogance rather than a search for the facts and the truth---well OK by me too.
I think the arrogance is more on your side anyway. You believe to know the facts and the truth to the exclusion of anyone who does not believe as you.
If your consider that arrogance---OK by me. If your god considers it arrogance rather than a search for the facts and the truth---well OK by me too.
I think the arrogance is more on your side anyway. You believe to know the facts and the truth to the exclusion of anyone who does not believe as you.
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Hilarious.
glad i brought joy to your life
Around 7500 years (give or take 100 years) ago. We know this from genealogies anchored in specific dates given in Scripture and from calculating the rough date (within 100 years on either side) of the Flood, with long orbit comets like Halley's Comet.
Because you say so?
Everything that has a beginning has a cause.
The effect cannot be greater than the cause.
If you claim the universe has a beginning, then it has a cause. Aside from God, you "don't know."
If you claim the universe had no beginning, that violates the three laws of thermodynamics, meaning they're either not absolute laws, and came into existence at some point (which cause you would have to provide), or the claim is wrong.
If two brothers are fighting, where older one says "there's leftover spaghetti in the fridge," and the younger one says no there isn't, and so the older brother goes and opens fridge and points to the leftover spaghetti in the fridge and says, "See? I told you so!", what do you think the response will be of the younger brother? Do you think he'll humble himself and admit he was wrong? Or do you think he'll harden his heart and get mad that he was proven wrong? The latter, right?
No one likes being shown they were wrong to their face. It takes a great amount of humility for one to admit he was wrong. But the result of doing so is a better relationship with the one who showed he was wrong.
Jesus said that the three cities he did the most miracles in all rejected Him, and so they will suffer a worse punishment than even Sodom and Gomorrah.
The lesson here being that you are like the younger brother in the example above, and like the three cities Jesus named in that passage.
The lesson itself being that having the truth shoved in one's face does not result in faith. It results in hardening of the heart.
You ask for evidence, and when shown evidence, you harden your heart against God.
The evidence is all around you, Avajs. "The heavens declare the glory of God, and the firmament His handiwork."
He wants to form a relationship with you, one based in faith and love.
You cannot arrive at that place with demands like this:
God did many miracles in the Bible. The result was unbelief.
What makes you think Him capitulating to your arrogant demands will result in anything different?
That would be counterproductive in forming a relationship with you.
Waiting?
“Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent? If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him! Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.
Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 7:7-12 - New King James Version
Keep Asking, Seeking, Knocking - “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will...
Arrogantly demanding God tell you how He did things is definitely not the same thing as humbly asking God to show you the truth from Scripture.
The truth is there for all to see it.
But there are none so blind as those who refuse to see.
There are some deeper things that are only clear to those who have humbled themselves and are led by the Spirit, but those are usually meat, never milk.
As things stand now, however, you're lactose intolerant.
Sorry, your arguments and examples are simply not convincing. the “there are mone so blind as those who refuse to see” works both waysAround 7500 years (give or take 100 years) ago. We know this from genealogies anchored in specific dates given in Scripture and from calculating the rough date (within 100 years on either side) of the Flood, with long orbit comets like Halley's Comet.
Because you say so?
Everything that has a beginning has a cause.
The effect cannot be greater than the cause.
If you claim the universe has a beginning, then it has a cause. Aside from God, you "don't know."
If you claim the universe had no beginning, that violates the three laws of thermodynamics, meaning they're either not absolute laws, and came into existence at some point (which cause you would have to provide), or the claim is wrong.
If two brothers are fighting, where older one says "there's leftover spaghetti in the fridge," and the younger one says no there isn't, and so the older brother goes and opens fridge and points to the leftover spaghetti in the fridge and says, "See? I told you so!", what do you think the response will be of the younger brother? Do you think he'll humble himself and admit he was wrong? Or do you think he'll harden his heart and get mad that he was proven wrong? The latter, right?
No one likes being shown they were wrong to their face. It takes a great amount of humility for one to admit he was wrong. But the result of doing so is a better relationship with the one who showed he was wrong.
Jesus said that the three cities he did the most miracles in all rejected Him, and so they will suffer a worse punishment than even Sodom and Gomorrah.
The lesson here being that you are like the younger brother in the example above, and like the three cities Jesus named in that passage.
The lesson itself being that having the truth shoved in one's face does not result in faith. It results in hardening of the heart.
You ask for evidence, and when shown evidence, you harden your heart against God.
The evidence is all around you, Avajs. "The heavens declare the glory of God, and the firmament His handiwork."
He wants to form a relationship with you, one based in faith and love.
You cannot arrive at that place with demands like this:
God did many miracles in the Bible. The result was unbelief.
What makes you think Him capitulating to your arrogant demands will result in anything different?
That would be counterproductive in forming a relationship with you.
Waiting?
“Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent? If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him! Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.
Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 7:7-12 - New King James Version
Keep Asking, Seeking, Knocking - “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will...www.biblegateway.com
Arrogantly demanding God tell you how He did things is definitely not the same thing as humbly asking God to show you the truth from Scripture.
The truth is there for all to see it.
But there are none so blind as those who refuse to see.
There are some deeper things that are only clear to those who have humbled themselves and are led by the Spirit, but those are usually meat, never milk.
As things stand now, however, you're lactose intolerant.
Stupidity. Exactly the wrong reaction.
What a worthless waste of time you are. I would genuinely be embarrassed.