I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Oh No Not Another Apocalypse Thread By Chrysostom
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I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
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So you're a Jew under the law? I believe that you are lost.
Again, you should join us in the body of Christ that are saved by grace through faith and not of works.
Rom 4:4-5 (AKJV/PCE)
(4:4) Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. (4:5) But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Faith alone won't save me if I don't know how to rightly divide.
Correct.
How do you learn how to rightly divide?
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You're using weasel words.
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- Read the Bible
- Let it speak for itself
He was the apostle to the gentiles. So not in Israel like Peter and the others. And he was murdered for spreading the gospel of grace.
AI has both Peter and Paul buried in Rome. Don't you agree with that?
Which Bible? Most of them do not have rightly dividing.
Before 1611, none of them had it.
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They all have the concept regardless of the exact words that they use.
Which Bible has the word "trinity" in it?
His Church gave us the word Trinity. Only She had the authority to do so.
1599 Geneva:
Study to show thyself approved unto God a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, dividing the word of truth aright.
Bible Gateway passage: 2 Timothy 2:15 - 1599 Geneva Bible
Study to show thyself approved unto God a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, dividing the word of truth aright.
Wycliffe Bible (began 1370):
Busily keep [Busily care, or keep,] to give thyself an approved, praiseable workman to God, without shame, rightly treating the word of truth.
Bible Gateway passage: 2 Timothy 2:15 - Wycliffe Bible
Busily keep [Busily care, or keep,] to give thyself an approved, praiseable workman to God, without shame, rightly treating the word of truth.
The concept of "correctly understanding" is there, Chrys. Always has been.
He translated Jerome's Vulgate. Where did he get the authority and approval? Is there a Wycliffe church that is still with us?
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WE are His church. We have the authority to read and understand His WORD!
WE need no false organization to do that.
Paul was NOT under anyone's authority, save the Lord Jesus Christ. And WE are followers of Paul (as he follows Christ [1 Cor 11:1]).
Paul followed Peter to Rome.
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Paul was NEVER under Peter's authority.
2Cor 11:5 (AKJV/PCE)
(11:5) For I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles.
2Cor 12:11 (AKJV/PCE)
(12:11) I am become a fool in glorying; ye have compelled me: for I ought to have been commended of you: for in nothing am I behind the very chiefest apostles, though I be nothing.
Do you think that Paul's following Christ has to do with location?
There is no logical or scriptural reason to think Simon bar Jonah went to Rome and is buried there.
The bone box is in possession of the Catholic church.
Here is a paper written on it.
Here is the most important paper written on it.
25 As Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him and fell down at his feet and worshiped him. 26 But Peter lifted him up, saying, “Stand up; I myself am also a man.” 27 And as he talked with him, he went in and found many who had come together. 28 Then he said to them, “You know how unlawful it is for a Jewish man to keep company with or go to one of another nation.
This is after Paul's calling to go to the gentiles, as Jews.
1Then after fourteen years I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and also took Titus with me.
14 years later and Peter is in Jerusalem.
7 But on the contrary, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcised [gentiles] had been committed to me, as the gospel of the circumcised [Jews] was to Peter
Peter's epistle is from Babylon. Where do you think that is?
AI has Paul buried in Rome. Where do you think he is buried?