Feds protected man urging breaking into capitol building on Jan 6

[Gary K]

This previously unknown individual is now known. And the story is apt to blow Jan 6 narrative of Democrats and mockingbird media apart.

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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[ok doser]

This previously unknown individual is now known. And the story is apt to blow Jan 6 narrative of Democrats and mockingbird media apart.

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

Remember when investigative journalists used to salivate at the prospect of uncovering a story like this?

 

[Gary K]

Remember when investigative journalists used to salivate at the prospect of uncovering a story like this?

I wonder if UN will enter the thread and imply I'm dumb for exposing another story he and the rest the left has the left has said was an impossibility. You know, as impossible as the vast superiority as natural immunity.

It's just another far left conspiracy theory blown out of the water.

 

[annabenedetti]

I wonder if UN will enter the thread and imply I'm dumb for exposing another story he and the rest the left has the left has said was an impossibility. You know, as impossible as the vast superiority as natural immunity.

It's just another far left conspiracy theory blown out of the water.

Here's "the left," way ahead of you:

DailyKos:

The Curious Case Of James Ray Epps AFO#16 AKA #FedBoomer... Everything Is Not Always As It Seems

This individual piqued my curiosity on the day of the Capitol Riot. When he was identified and interviewed after the insurrection, I eagerly awaited his arrest. The evidence I was sitting on seemed to indicate that this individual was a leader of some organized plot to overrun the Capitol. What has come out in the news this week, which is full tilt right-wing conspiracy theory spin, has me re-thinking my assumptions...

FACT: The night before the Capitol Riot, Ray Epps told Trump supporters on the streets of Washington, D.C. “We need to go IN to the Capitol.”
FACT: Moments before barriers were initially breached, Ray Epps whispered into the ear of Ryan Samsel just seconds before his assault of a Capitol Police Officer:
FACT: After the insurrection the FBI assigned James Ray Epps the number AFO#16 and the Sedition Hunterslabeled him #Fedboomer. Sometime in the months since, the FBI removed photo #16 from their website...
FACT: There has been speculation online that Mr. Epps might be an undercover Fed:
FACT: On October 21st Congressman Thomas Massie (R-KY) grilled Attorney General Merrick Garland asking him directly if Mr. Epps was a federal agent-provocateur:
ashington, D.C. “We need to go IN to the Capitol.”
FACT: Moments before barriers were initially breached, Ray Epps whispered into the ear of Ryan Samsel just seconds before his assault of a Capitol Police Office
FACT: After the insurrection the FBI assigned James Ray Epps the number AFO#16 and the Sedition Hunterslabeled him #Fedboomer. Sometime in the months since, the FBI removed photo #16 from their website...
FACT: There has been speculation online that Mr. Epps might be an undercover Fed:
FACT: On October 21st Congressman Thomas Massie (R-KY) grilled Attorney General Merrick Garland asking him directly if Mr. Epps was a federal agent-provocateur:
FACT: Attorney General Merrick Garland declined to answer that question:


And so on. Lots more at the link.

 

[Gary K]

Here's "the left," way ahead of you:

DailyKos:

The Curious Case Of James Ray Epps AFO#16 AKA #FedBoomer... Everything Is Not Always As It Seems

This individual piqued my curiosity on the day of the Capitol Riot. When he was identified and interviewed after the insurrection, I eagerly awaited his arrest. The evidence I was sitting on seemed to indicate that this individual was a leader of some organized plot to overrun the Capitol. What has come out in the news this week, which is full tilt right-wing conspiracy theory spin, has me re-thinking my assumptions...

FACT: The night before the Capitol Riot, Ray Epps told Trump supporters on the streets of Washington, D.C. “We need to go IN to the Capitol.”
FACT: Moments before barriers were initially breached, Ray Epps whispered into the ear of Ryan Samsel just seconds before his assault of a Capitol Police Officer:
FACT: After the insurrection the FBI assigned James Ray Epps the number AFO#16 and the Sedition Hunterslabeled him #Fedboomer. Sometime in the months since, the FBI removed photo #16 from their website...
FACT: There has been speculation online that Mr. Epps might be an undercover Fed:
FACT: On October 21st Congressman Thomas Massie (R-KY) grilled Attorney General Merrick Garland asking him directly if Mr. Epps was a federal agent-provocateur:
ashington, D.C. “We need to go IN to the Capitol.”
FACT: Moments before barriers were initially breached, Ray Epps whispered into the ear of Ryan Samsel just seconds before his assault of a Capitol Police Office
FACT: After the insurrection the FBI assigned James Ray Epps the number AFO#16 and the Sedition Hunterslabeled him #Fedboomer. Sometime in the months since, the FBI removed photo #16 from their website...
FACT: There has been speculation online that Mr. Epps might be an undercover Fed:
FACT: On October 21st Congressman Thomas Massie (R-KY) grilled Attorney General Merrick Garland asking him directly if Mr. Epps was a federal agent-provocateur:
FACT: Attorney General Merrick Garland declined to answer that question:


And so on. Lots more at the link.

Yeah. Right. That's why you have supported the "no feds" fantasy all along and said time and time again that the only people involved in planning and executing Jan 6 were Trump supporters. If you knew that at the time, you'll lie through your teeth at the drop of a hat.

Funny how the biggest accusers of Trump supporters included you, the Democrats, and your heroes the mockingbird media. All of you preaching the same song and dance. And all of it a lie. That dishonesty is disgusting. Allowing innocent people to be charged with lies and a bunch of them imprisoned without due process.

And you're bragging about it. You're lack of integrity ought to humiliate you.

 

[annabenedetti]

Yeah. Right. That's why you have supported the "no feds" fantasy all along and said time and time again that the only people involved in planning and executing Jan 6 were Trump supporters. If you knew that at the time, you'll lie through your teeth at the drop of a hat.

You know, ffreeloader, I really want to give you the benefit of the doubt, that the constant narrative in your head, about what you *think* you know about me, or what I've said, or what I believe, is unintentional.

But it's getting harder and harder to see that you come by your lies by accident - instead of on purpose, formed out of your hatred.

Back in January:

There was an interview with one of the beleaguered Capitol police that there were cops from other agencies/states that flashed their credentials at him as they went by. I believe him. There are also videos of Capitol police waving people in and I don't know the full context on those. But there were others who tried hard to protect the Capitol and the people inside, and were beaten and killed in the line of duty.

I also think it's going to come out eventually how there was inside help, from GOP elected officials, the Pentagon, and law enforcement.

 

[ok doser]

Hometown guy!

 

[Gary K]

You know, ffreeloader, I really want to give you the benefit of the doubt, that the constant narrative in your head, about what you *think* you know about me, or what I've said, or what I believe, is unintentional.

But it's getting harder and harder to see that you come by your lies by accident - instead of on purpose, formed out of your hatred.

Back in January:

I do not remember ever seeing that post.

Are you claiming that you've read every post I've ever made so I must have read your every post? Outside of that you blamed Trump supporters for all violence when there is video after video showing Trump supporters stopping violence and the breaking of windows and doors.

You want to claim my distrust of you is hatred? Have at it. The problem with that is you've earned my distrust. Your refusal to comment on posts that prove things you have posted are untrue causes me to distrust you and the fact that you'll post the same things later on already proven untrue does not inspire trust. You want to be trusted? Earn it. Trust is earned, not given.

 

[Gary K]

Hometown guy!

You notice he is not dressed as a typical Trump supporter. He is dressed much more like a typical antifa rioter. Black clothes and black helmet.

 

[ok doser]

You notice he is not dressed as a typical Trump supporter. He is dressed much more like a typical antifa rioter. Black clothes and black helmet.

Rochester is also a very strongly Democrat city, although many of the suburbs are strongly Republican.

I used to work with a Mattice many many years ago. This dude could have been her son.

 

[annabenedetti]

I do not remember ever seeing that post.

Doesn't matter. It shows you made up the "no feds fantasy."

Are you willing to walk that one back, or are you gonna keep up the pretense? Because my January post, whether you saw it or not, shows you had no idea what you were talking about when you decided to make that one up.

Are you claiming that you've read every post I've ever made so I must have read your every post?

If I was claiming that, I would've said that.

Again, you're making things up. This isn't helping you at all.

Outside of that you blamed Trump supporters for all violence when there is video after video showing Trump supporters stopping violence and the breaking of windows and doors.

There are videos after videos of MAGAs committing crimes. A lot of those videos were their own, streamed live, which they proudly posted - until they frantically tried to delete them after realizing they would be evidence.

It was a MAGA insurrection. It may happen again. MAGA has a bit of a split in that some are proud of the insurrection and want to it to continue until they've "deconstructed the administrative state," and some are still claiming that antifa did it. From what I've seen, the majority are in the "let's do it again, but bigger" camp.

You want to claim my distrust of you is hatred? Have at it. The problem with that is you've earned my distrust. Your refusal to comment on posts that prove things you have posted are untrue causes me to distrust you and the fact that you'll post the same things later on already proven untrue does not inspire trust. You want to be trusted? Earn it. Trust is earned, not given.

You didn't get that right either. Maybe if you read it again you'll see I didn't "claim" it, I said it was getting harder to give you the benefit of the doubt. I couldn't care less what I "earn" in your mind, it's not about that at all. That's just you again.

You aren't truthful about the people you oppose here. By accident, or on purpose? That's the question, and I happen to think it's likely on accident, that these narratives you've created in your mind might be out of your control. But still, they're false, and that's a problem. For example, I don't "want to be trusted" by you, you simply made that up. Nowhere in my post did I give you the impression I wanted that, you created it out of whole cloth. The fact is, I don't care whether you trust me. I care whether you lie about me.

One more thing: it's interesting how you "distrust" me because of my "refusal to comment on posts that prove things."

I don't have to reply to your posts, in fact the long-time owner of the forum encouraged us to walk away from a person or thread if we didn't like the person or the thread subject. Often I follow that advice. Or sometimes I can't be bothered, or I don't have time, or it seems pointless. All the reasons everyone here does the same thing. Life is short. We make our choices. But to make that a measure of "distrust?" Well, that's just an interesting measure.

 

[ok doser]

Doesn't matter. It shows you made up the "no feds fantasy."

Are you willing to walk that one back, or are you gonna keep up the pretense? Because my January post, whether you saw it or not, shows you had no idea what you were talking about when you decided to make that one up.



If I was claiming that, I would've said that.

Again, you're making things up. This isn't helping you at all.



There are videos after videos of MAGAs committing crimes. A lot of those videos were their own, streamed live, which they proudly posted - until they frantically tried to delete them after realizing they would be evidence.

It was a MAGA insurrection. It may happen again. MAGA has a bit of a split in that some are proud of the insurrection and want to it to continue until they've "deconstructed the administrative state," and some are still claiming that antifa did it. From what I've seen, the majority are in the "let's do it again, but bigger" camp.



You didn't get that right either. Maybe if you read it again you'll see I didn't "claim" it, I said it was getting harder to give you the benefit of the doubt. I couldn't care less what I "earn" in your mind, it's not about that at all. That's just you again.

You aren't truthful about the people you oppose here. By accident, or on purpose? That's the question, and I happen to think it's likely on accident, that these narratives you've created in your mind might be out of your control. But still, they're false, and that's a problem. For example, I don't "want to be trusted" by you, you simply made that up. Nowhere in my post did I give you the impression I wanted that, you created it out of whole cloth. The fact is, I don't care whether you trust me. I care whether you lie about me.

One more thing: it's interesting how you "distrust" me because of my "refusal to comment on posts that prove things."

I don't have to reply to your posts, in fact the long-time owner of the forum encouraged us to walk away from a person or thread if we didn't like the person or the thread subject. Often I follow that advice. Or sometimes I can't be bothered, or I don't have time, or it seems pointless. All the reasons everyone here does the same thing. Life is short. We make our choices. But to make that a measure of "distrust?" Well, that's just an interesting measure.

Goodness! What a lot of words!

Someone's triggered

 

[annabenedetti]

Goodness! What a lot of words!

Someone's triggered

You're just jealous.