Were The Nazis Left Wing?

Clete

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So, for those that think that the Nazis were "liberals", please make your case, if you can.

Define your terms.

What does it mean to be on the left side of the politcal isle and what does it mean to be on the right?


PREDICTION: Arthur will not answer this question and if he does he will lie.

Prove me wrong Arthur, I dare you.
 

Clete

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Clete's ideas? Why would I take any notice of a politically extreme person who would, for example, trample the female vote? Jack Boots ahoy!

Here it is again.......


You need to be fed with small bite-size chunks of info, ok doser. That way you might just get the message.

You are a liar!
 

chair

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I think there is confusion here. "totalitarian" and "leftist" aren't the same thing. The Nazi's were an example of right wing totalitarianism. We have an example of left wing totalitarianism in Communist China.
 

Jefferson

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I think there is confusion here. "totalitarian" and "leftist" aren't the same thing. The Nazi's were an example of right wing totalitarianism. We have an example of left wing totalitarianism in Communist China.

Why do you think the Nazi's were right wing?
 

ok doser

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I think there is confusion here. "totalitarian" and "leftist" aren't the same thing. The Nazi's were an example of right wing totalitarianism. We have an example of left wing totalitarianism in Communist China.

Care to tackle my Venn diagram challenge?
 

eider

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You are a liar!

Oh! Let's all play that game, eh?

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And all yours...................

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. You're just the sort of moron that would let the next Hitler come into power. You'd almost certainly vote for him and go to his rallies!
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That's right and the only people who have him (Hitler)beat (and there's plenty of them) are people who think, in political terms, like Obama, Hillary, Pelosi, Cortes and you.
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Commies, Fascists, Nazis.....the important thing is that the whole lot of you are all in favor of tyranny, collectivism, socialism, totalitarianism, theft and violence, as well as of the destruction of Christianity, and opposed to liberty and property.
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The fact is you couldn't care less what the truth is.
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The fact is, that you would (and do) support very nearly every political position Hitler held to, wrote about and implemented.
Lie!

And yes, I do think that you would trample womens' rights, including the vote. :)
 

chair

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Why do you think the Nazi's were right wing?

I am using a common definition. Like the Wikipedia uses:
Far-right politics are politics further on the right of the left–right spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of extreme nationalism,[1][2] nativist ideologies, and authoritarian tendencies.[3][4]

Used to describe the historical experiences of fascism and Nazism,[5] it today includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, Third Position, the alt-right, white nationalism[6] and other ideologies or organizations that feature ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[7] These can lead to oppression, violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing, and even genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group,[8][9] nation, state,[10] national religion, dominant culture or ultraconservative traditional social institutions.
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Here's another interesting quote from the same article:
As they view their community in a state of decay facilitated by the ruling elites, far-right members portray themselves as a natural, sane and alternative elite, with the redemptive mission of saving society from its promised doom.​

How do you define "right wing"?
 

Arthur Brain

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Define your terms.

What does it mean to be on the left side of the politcal isle and what does it mean to be on the right?


PREDICTION: Arthur will not answer this question and if he does he will lie.

Prove me wrong Arthur, I dare you.

Well, here's a definition that covers some of the basics although it's hardly a one size fits all as not all people on the left or right hold exactly the same views:

"Generally, the left-wing is characterized by an emphasis on "ideas such as freedom, equality, fraternity, rights, progress, reform and internationalism" while the right-wing is characterized by an emphasis on "notions such as authority, hierarchy, order, duty, tradition, reaction and nationalism".

If you need more specifics then fine, let me know.

I don't think it's quite as simple as that but in essence it covers several of the major differences although some are more hard line on issues from either side of the spectrum and sometimes overlap. So, I answered your question, if t's not to your satisfaction then I've offered to answer further, it was hardly much of a "dare" frankly and no lying on my part.
 

eider

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As presented by hysterical children throwing temper tantrums at the UN?

Absolutely.

See Doggerland.

I live not far from the Dogger Bank, you nutcase. The fact that the Dogger was a land bridge to the continent when the ice sheets were one mile deep in North America and across Europe, and the fact that the sea levels rose after the ice age melt is no kind of evidence to prove that the CO2 levels are rising out of control by comparison with those times.

If all the ice would melt then sea levels would be about 200 feet higher than today, but even a 2 meter rise would be a disaster. Our carbon emissions over the last 150 years have put our ecosystem at risk.... and if you love your babies so much you'll wake up and stop being such a dunce over global warming. It's our babies future that dunces like you would risk.......... Remember? Babies? Po-life? :idea:
 

Clete

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I live not far from the Dogger Bank, you nutcase. The fact that the Dogger was a land bridge to the continent when the ice sheets were one mile deep in North America and across Europe, and the fact that the sea levels rose after the ice age melt is no kind of evidence to prove that the CO2 levels are rising out of control by comparison with those times.

If all the ice would melt then sea levels would be about 200 feet higher than today, but even a 2 meter rise would be a disaster. Our carbon emissions over the last 150 years have put our ecosystem at risk.... and if you love your babies so much you'll wake up and stop being such a dunce over global warming. It's our babies future that dunces like you would risk.......... Remember? Babies? Po-life? :idea:

There is not one single piece of actual evidence that man is causing any sort of climate change whatsoever, warming or otherwise. None! It's is all based on computer modeling - all of it.

And we all now know what computer modeling with worth.
 
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