Interview with former KBG officer from USSR who defected to the US

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After looking at the replies to this thread by the leftists here I have to thank you all. You have shown your juvenile lack of thought and ability to reason when you think all these memes are actually arguments that make sense. All you've done is make yourselves look moronic. You've just confirmed Bezemenov's assessment of you as useful idiots.
 

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You've just confirmed Bezemenov's assessment of you as useful idiots.

I suspect that Bezmenov, were he still alive today, would warn us about Putin, and Trump. Who's the "useful idiot" now? Hint: Look in the mirror.

You have shown your juvenile lack of thought and ability to reason when you think all these memes are actually arguments that make sense.

Well you have to admit, that picture of Trump leaning into Putin to give hin a kiss is simply ADORABLE.
 
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You're a fool. Gorbachev and Yeltsin didn't change anything for the better.

You're a dufus. Gorbachev implemented Glasnost and Perestroika--economic and social reforms--which led to a KGB attempted failed coup against him and hastened the downfall of the Soviet Union. Yeltsin became president and moved Russia further away from totalitarianism. That was change for the better.
 

annabenedetti

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Wow. I didn't know OK and I even talked very often. I sent him a pm a day or so and he's never even answered it. And that's the only pm ever between the two of us that I know of. And you think he's "coaching me"? LOL. You're getting extremely paranoid, anna. All OK has to do is ask me a question and you see it as "coaching". Tsk, tsk, tsk. Better get back on your meds. You need help with that paranoia.

What are you going on about? Who said anything about PMs? :freak:

This has nothing to do with paranoia, freeloader. I've watched doser do his thing for 10 years now, and if you can't see how he nurses along your posts for his own purposes that's okay, it doesn't change anything. He knows what he's doing, even if you don't.

Oh, and I didn't see where you answered the question I asked you:

I see Putin as an adversary. Trump sees him as a friend. How do you see Putin?
 

ok doser

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Wow. I didn't know OK and I even talked very often. I sent him a pm a day or so and he's never even answered it.

i often read the very few PMs i get and posts in bed on my handheld, my least preferred tool for responding. I don't always remember how I wanted to respond by the time I get in front of my lappy.
 

ok doser

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Wow. I didn't know OK and I even talked very often. I sent him a pm a day or so and he's never even answered it. And that's the only pm ever between the two of us that I know of. And you think he's "coaching me"? LOL. You're getting extremely paranoid, anna. All OK has to do is ask me a question and you see it as "coaching". Tsk, tsk, tsk. Better get back on your meds. You need help with that paranoia.

btw - anna's projecting - she's one of a cabal of eight or nine posters who were active back in the day who would co-ordinate their attacks through PMs, VMs and other offline methods
 

annabenedetti

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btw - anna's projecting - she's one of a cabal of eight or nine posters who were active back in the day who would co-ordinate their attacks through PMs, VMs and other offline methods

:rotfl:

That didn't work any better the last time you tried it.


:chuckle:

Now that's paranoia.

Anyway how would you know unless you were stalking all "eight or nine of us" and how would you even know what I was talking to friends about? We talked about everything under the sun, because we were friends.
 

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I suspect that Bezmenov, were he still alive today, would warn us about Putin, and Trump. Who's the "useful idiot" now? Hint: Look in the mirror.



Well you have to admit, that picture of Trump leaning into Putin to give hin a kiss is simply ADORABLE.

You just displayed your lack of ability to reason from cause to effect. Bezmenov defected to the west in the early 70s. I don't know when Griffin interviewed him, but probably in the early 80s for it would have taken time for Bezemenov to become well-known and as he lived in Canada he would have been less known in the US where Griffin resides. He said in that interview that the first generation of those affected by ideological subversion was just then being in the process of being completed. He also stated it took at the ideological subversion of least 4 generations to complete the process. And he very plainly laid out the facts that those who were being ideologically subverted were being brainwashed into Marxism. You know, your favorite ideology. He pointed out the activists in almost every category of activists that you marxists use. And he called them useful idiots who would be lined up against a wall and shot upon any future takeover. That means you, anna, user name, barbie, and the rest of you will be the first ones killed because you will think you earned positions of power in the new political system. However, the jokes on you. You marxist activists will be the first ones executed.

Now look at what the US educational system is putting out. Snowflakes completely unable to deal with anything that contradicts the marxism they've been brainwashed with by their marxist professors and teachers. The brainwashing is now starting at the pre-school level. He predicted an academia filled with marxists spewing marxist nonsense and that is exactly what we have today. An academia dominated by marxists and marxism. The timeline is right on schedule and you marxists are incapable of reasoning out what has been done. It's just like he said. He can tell you the truth and you cannot recognize it.

All you can do is spew nonsense. The Russia hoax has been proven to be nothing but lies, yet you still trumpet it from the rooftops. It's just like Bezmenov said, you're unable to recognize truth when it slaps you upside the head. The Ukraine hoax is just an extension of the Russia hoax. The entire impeachment is built out of lies that have been proven to be lies. Yet you people are unable to recognize truth no matter how often it comes up and slaps you upside the head. Every one of Schiff's "witnesses" proved the impeachment is a sham for not a single of one of them could point to anything they had personally seen, heard, or read that Trump supposedly did. They all said no when asked about personally witnessing any of the asserted conduct on the part of Trump. That means there is no evidence for Schiff's impeachment. It's a complete farce.

Who interfered in internal Ukrainian affairs? The Democrats. Joe Biden forced the firing of a Ukrainian prosecutor who was investigating his son for money laundering. He's the one who abused his power. He was stupid enough to brag about it on camera how he used the club of $1 billion worth of aid to force the Ukrainian president at the time to do what creepy uncle Joe wanted him to do. There's your abuse of power and quid pro quo. Joe was so proud of his corruption he couldn't help bragging about it on camera.
 

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What are you going on about? Who said anything about PMs? :freak:

This has nothing to do with paranoia, freeloader. I've watched doser do his thing for 10 years now, and if you can't see how he nurses along your posts for his own purposes that's okay, it doesn't change anything. He knows what he's doing, even if you don't.

Oh, and I didn't see where you answered the question I asked you:

I see Putin as an adversary. Trump sees him as a friend. How do you see Putin?

Oh, so you think OK is coaching me right in front of your eyes? That's even more paranoid than I thought.

I've read a bunch of your old posts. You know what? Your old posts fit the description of what the seminar callers used to do on conservative talk radio. You followed the same exact script. The likelihood of you being a paid Democrat activist is pretty high. Your posting behavior also leads to that conclusion as you will not even comment on fully documented posts that contradict your agenda. You want to pretend that there is no evidence showing your agenda is off-the-wall crazy. That can only lead to one of two conclusions about you. You're the paid Democrat activist like I think you are, or you're one of what Bezmenov described as ideologically subverted victims of brainwashing.

I see Putin as Putin. He's KGB and he's leading his nation. His methods are what they always have been as a KGB agent. He's a communist dedicated to the communist agenda. You know, the same marxist agenda you push. The agenda Bezmenov described in great detail. As president does Trump have to deal with him? Yup. He has to build some kind of relationship with him just like all previous presidents have had to create a relationship with their counterpart in the USSR/Russia. It's standard procedure. Heads of state have to communicate and work together. It's a must, and you should, if you don't, know this.

The only presidents I know of who crossed the line and were toadying to the USSR/Russia were all Democrats. Obama got caught on a hot mic saying he would have much more freedom to cooperate with Putin in his second term. Funny how you ignore that. At the start of the Russian revolution a bunch of bankers, the founders of the Federal Reserve, asked Leon Trotsky to come to the US. They gave him $20 million dollars which he was to carry back to Russia to finance the Bolsheviks. The Canadians knew what Trotsky was doing and detained him at one of the Canadian ports the ship on which he was traveling stopped. They didn't want all the money to go to Russia and a successful revolution start there because it would mean the Russian's would close their front during WW1 and allow the Germans to fight just a single front war which would cause the deaths of more Canadians. Woodrow Wilson got involved at the command of his handlers and put enough political pressure on them that they eventually sent Trotsky on his way with the $20 million. So we have a Democrat president of the US helping fund the Russian revolution and helping Germany at the cost of American lives. Great guy, huh? FDR made sure the USSR was given the plans to the atomic bomb. Good guy again. Right? Very patriotic, right? Really concerned about American lives. :nono: And both Wilson and FDR had socialist/marxist handlers that lived in the White House itself so they could keep both Presidents under control and make sure they did what they were told.

The Democrat party was born in corruption and it has dwelt in that cesspool ever since. It's never cleaned up it's act. Corruption is it's life line and it has worked hand in glove with the enemies of the US for it's entire lifetime. Everything it has done has been to tear the US apart at the seams.
 

annabenedetti

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Oh, so you think OK is coaching me right in front of your eyes? That's even more paranoid than I thought.

No it's not paranoid, ffreeloader. I know what he's like. You, apparently, don't.

I've read a bunch of your old posts.
That's nice. They're there for the record, I've been here awhile.

You know what? Your old posts fit the description of what the seminar callers used to do on conservative talk radio. You followed the same exact script. The likelihood of you being a paid Democrat activist is pretty high.

"A paid Democrat activist?" I've tried to be civil to you, I've ignored most of your personal attacks on me. But I'm no saint and what you're saying... that's just bonkers. I'll state again that I'm not what you claim. It's bizarre, and you're wrong. I've been an avid reader my whole life and a news and political junkie since I was a teen. I do a lot of research for my own understanding. Applying your standards for me to yourself, I should be claiming you're a paid Republican activist, but that would be crazy.

Your posting behavior also leads to that conclusion as you will not even comment on fully documented posts that contradict your agenda.

That's stupid and controlling. I post how I choose, not how you think I should post. I answer what I choose to answer, I rarely watch videos. I don't want to waste my time reading through conspiracy sites to formulate an answer that you'll completely ignore while you go off on some tangent.

You want to pretend that there is no evidence showing your agenda is off-the-wall crazy. That can only lead to one of two conclusions about you. You're the paid Democrat activist like I think you are, or you're one of what Bezmenov described as ideologically subverted victims of brainwashing.

Unbelievable. I can't deal with your kind of crazy anymore, or your longwinded rants, it sucks the oxygen out of me. You're going on ignore, which I'm sure you'll appreciate. Happy New Year!
 

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Once again, so much crazy in ffreeloader's post that I hardly know where to begin! Oh well, it's the hand I've been dealt. I'll touch on a few of the crazier points, just for amusement...

Marxism. You know, your favorite ideology.

Marxism is my ideology? Thanks for letting me know. At last check, I thought I was a registered Republican with slightly left-of-center libertarian views. I'll have to double check, but in the meantime you seem to assume that you know me better than I do.

And he called them useful idiots who would be lined up against a wall and shot upon any future takeover. That means you, anna, user name, barbie, and the rest of you will be the first ones killed because you will think you earned positions of power in the new political system.

Crazy talk. There will be no "Marxist takeover," no one is going to get shot. Get back on your meds.

You marxist activists will be the first ones executed.

More crazy talk that sounds like it came straight out of the loony bin.

All you can do is spew nonsense.

And I don't know why I bother because with you around, we have all the nonsense we could possibly hope to get.

The Russia hoax has been proven to be nothing but lies, yet you still trumpet it from the rooftops.

So far as I'm concerned, Trump did in fact win the 2016 election fair and square. However, Putin's government has sponsored internet trolls to spread propaganda on the internet for the past decade. That's a fact. How much influence did they have? Not enough to shift the election in Trump's favor. Hillary won the popular vote by 3 million, in spite of the fact that she was a horrible candidate. See my thread entitled Hillary Clinton can't rewrite history, but she'll try for more info on that topic.

The Ukraine hoax is just an extension of the Russia hoax.

By "Ukraine hoax" are you referring to Trump's insane claim that Ukraine and the Democratic National Committee fabricated a hack to sabotage Trump's 2016 campaign and frame Russia?

Joe was so proud of his corruption he couldn't help bragging about it on camera.

Is Joe Biden corrupt? This point isn't so crazy. For starters, he vigorously absolves his crackhead son at every opportunity instead of publicly rebuking him, so I think there's got to be some corruption in there somewhere.
 
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