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  • chrysostom
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    Originally posted by chickenman View Post
    Jekehoe,
    Have you ever had a storm on Friday night and woke up Saturday morning to find sticks all over your yard? If so, did you pick them up?

    Serious question.

    Randy
    surely you can't be serious

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  • chrysostom
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    Originally posted by Paulos View Post
    You post
    some
    extremely goofy stuff at times.
    beer is liquid bread

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  • sesseltheologe
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    Originally posted by jekehoe View Post
    If you're in a bar ordering an alcoholic beverage what does that do to your testimony?
    Absolutely nothing. In fact, here where I live, not drinking alcohol could damage my testimony and push others away from the Gospel.

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  • chickenman
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    Jekehoe,
    Have you ever had a storm on Friday night and woke up Saturday morning to find sticks all over your yard? If so, did you pick them up?

    Serious question.

    Randy

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  • chickenman
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    Originally posted by jekehoe View Post
    The point was not to exile ourselves but rather to "(1 Thessalonians 5:22) Abstain from all appearance of evil." It's not only the amount you may or may not drink it's also the where & when. If you're in a bar ordering an alcoholic beverage what does that do to your testimony?
    Why would drinking a glass of wine in public appear evil?

    How does one determine what appears evil?

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  • Paulos
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    Originally posted by chrysostom View Post
    if you research the word yeast in the earliest recorded history, you can't tell if they are talking about bread or beer
    so
    at the last supper it could have been beer and wine
    You post
    some
    extremely goofy stuff at times.

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  • ghost
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    Originally posted by jekehoe View Post
    The point was not to exile ourselves but rather to "(1 Thessalonians 5:22) Abstain from all appearance of evil." It's not only the amount you may or may not drink it's also the where & when. If you're in a bar ordering an alcoholic beverage what does that do to your testimony?
    An "appearance of evil" is communicating to others that they are not right with God if they drink wine.

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  • OMEGA
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    I'll Drink to That !!

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  • jekehoe
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    Originally posted by sesseltheologe View Post
    I don't think that there is a definition for moderation in the Bible—other than don't be drunk—because moderation is going to be different for everyone. A glass of wine is going to have a different effect on a five foot tall soccer mom than it's going to on a 350 pound 6'8" offensive tackle and thus what's moderate will be different. Everyone that is Christian and decides that it's okay to drink is going to have to decide for themselves what's okay.

    I don't know if using what all you don't have to worry about when you don't drink is a good argument for not drinking (if that is what you were trying to doing), because we could quickly do that with virtually every sin/tentatively sinful thing, and we would be quickly reduced to not even getting out of bed.
    The point was not to exile ourselves but rather to "(1 Thessalonians 5:22) Abstain from all appearance of evil." It's not only the amount you may or may not drink it's also the where & when. If you're in a bar ordering an alcoholic beverage what does that do to your testimony?

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  • TomO
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    Originally posted by Knight View Post
    What Does the Bible Say about Wine?
    It says you shouldn't.

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  • bybee
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    Moderation is a simple concept. Don't take more than you need. Enjoy yourself. Share with others. Stay in your right mind.

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  • bybee
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    Originally posted by Lighthouse View Post
    Ditto!

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  • chrysostom
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    if you research the word yeast in the earliest recorded history, you can't tell if they are talking about bread or beer
    so
    at the last supper it could have been beer and wine

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  • sesseltheologe
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    Originally posted by jekehoe View Post
    First, I agree that drunkenness is a sin. However, you can't get drunk if you don't drink. You can't be an alcoholic if you don't drink. You can't get a DUI if you don't drink. How does our Lord define moderation? Oh, you don't have to worry about "moderation" if you don't drink...
    I don't think that there is a definition for moderation in the Bible—other than don't be drunk—because moderation is going to be different for everyone. A glass of wine is going to have a different effect on a five foot tall soccer mom than it's going to on a 350 pound 6'8" offensive tackle and thus what's moderate will be different. Everyone that is Christian and decides that it's okay to drink is going to have to decide for themselves what's okay.

    I don't know if using what all you don't have to worry about when you don't drink is a good argument for not drinking (if that is what you were trying to doing), because we could quickly do that with virtually every sin/tentatively sinful thing, and we would be quickly reduced to not even getting out of bed.

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  • chickenman
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    Originally posted by jekehoe View Post
    First, I agree that drunkenness is a sin. However, you can't get drunk if you don't drink. You can't be an alcoholic if you don't drink. You can't get a DUI if you don't drink. How does our Lord define moderation? Oh, you don't have to worry about "moderation" if you don't drink...
    Good point. And You can't become a knife-wielding murderer if you abstain from using knives.

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