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  • #16
    Originally posted by Ktoyou View Post
    This thread needs to stick to the theology OV topic. It has a poor title and seems to be more a personal argument than a theological debate.
    I don't mind if you want to delete this thread, not at all. But can i at least get an answer to my question? Is this forum different? Or are the same personal attacks allowed here?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Ktoyou View Post
      This thread needs to stick to the theology OV topic. It has a poor title and seems to be more a personal argument than a theological debate.
      You've seen the list of names i've been called. How would you feel if you were on the receiving end of that for simply copying a definition out of the strongs and vines? And then be misrepresented as someone who is argumentative? I don't want to waste my time if this forum is run the same way.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Faither View Post
        You probably know how i was treated in ECT. I was only trying to find out if this forum was different. So far your the first one to acknowledge my question.
        TOL can be a pretty rough place. It isn't policed quite as rigidly as some forums. But in the theology club the rules are different. Folks cannot attack the poster. They have to attack the post itself. Here are the rules to this section.

        Originally posted by Knight View Post
        You must be a Theology Club member to post in the Open View Theology Forum. Becoming a member is easy and free. You can join the club here. For the most part anyone who applies will be accepted into the Theology Club.

        However...

        To remain in the theology Club you will need to be able to play well with others. The Theology Club is for folks who do not wish to bicker, fight, play games, obfuscate, or otherwise present themselves as a distraction to the discussion.

        Thread derailment will NOT be tolerated. Stay on topic!!!

        The Open View Theology Forum is a PRO-openness theology forum. In other words this forum is intended to primarily discuss Open View theology from the perspective that it is the correct biblical view. That does not mean that the view cannot be questioned or debated, instead it simply means this forum will not be a place for settled view proponents to grandstand or monopolize the forum or mock the position that this forum represents.

        If a person is not following the above stated rules they will be removed from the Theology Club and will no longer be able to make posts in this forum.

        Thank you in advance for your cooperation.


        June is Gay Pride Month.Tolerance and diversity? ☞ More like tolerate perversity.☠

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Sherman View Post
          TOL can be a pretty rough place. It isn't policed quite as rigidly as some forums. But in the theology club the rules are different. Folks cannot attack the poster. They have to attack the post itself. Here are the rules to this section.



          Thank you Sherman for the clarification.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Faither View Post
            Quote by way 2 go,
            Open Theism claims that the future is open (and not settled) because God is free and eternally creative and will always have new thoughts. The Settled View claims that the future is utterly and exhaustively settled


            Does open theism only pertain to the future, and how God relates to that future? Or does open theism apply to all facets of the God man relationship?

            Open Theism is about whether or not you have free will or is
            everything predestined with no choice.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by way 2 go View Post
              Open Theism is about whether or not you have free will or is
              everything predestined with no choice.
              I believe certain major Biblical things are predestined and will happen, and on everyday minute details and the lives we live we have free will.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by way 2 go View Post
                Open Theism is about whether or not you have free will or is
                everything predestined with no choice.
                There's no free will in a vacuum. But we are "given" the freedom to choose what we are going to serve. There's only two choices. God and submitting ourselves to Him, or Satan and submitting ourselves to Him. Both are continuous choices.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by patrick jane View Post
                  I believe certain major Biblical things are predestined and will happen, and on everyday minute details and the lives we live we have free will.
                  was Jesus rejection by his chosen people and for them not to receive their kingdom predestined or free will.



                  Mat 24:34 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Faither View Post
                    There's no free will in a vacuum.
                    we are not in a vacuum .

                    But we are "given" the freedom to choose what we are going to serve. There's only two choices. God and submitting ourselves to Him, or Satan and submitting ourselves to Him. Both are continuous choices.
                    is anything predestined ?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by way 2 go View Post
                      we are not in a vacuum .



                      is anything predestined ?
                      No freewill in a vacuum, means we are being sucked to certain death, physically. No freewill can change that, and only changing that fact would be the only freewill worth talking about, earthly speaking that is.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Faither View Post
                        No freewill in a vacuum, means we are being sucked to certain death, physically.
                        so no free will because of physical death
                        There's only two choices. God and submitting ourselves to Him, or Satan and submitting ourselves to Him. Both are continuous choices.
                        but continuous
                        free will to choose who to submit to God or satan


                        No freewill can change that, and only changing that fact would be the only freewill worth talking about, earthly speaking that is.
                        so does your choices of who to submit to lengthen or shorten your days you have here ?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by way 2 go View Post
                          so no free will because of physical death


                          but continuous
                          free will to choose who to submit to God or satan




                          so does your choices of who to submit to lengthen or shorten your days you have here ?
                          Seeing i don't know the will of God concerning His future for me, i would have to say it wouldn't matter either way, when i surrender my life to Christ, it's no longer my life anymore.

                          I'm curious, whats the relevance?

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