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  • #91
    Originally posted by Ardima View Post
    It is sad to hear that you do not have Jesus because no Jesus; not righteousness. No Jesus; no hope.

    I do not back down on the Truth that the Spirit has shown me. The Truth is the entire Bible is focused on God's Love; the the Love of God and the Love for God. The theme of the entire Bible is the Gospel of Jesus Christ in which we truly know the Love of God. If you cannot view scripture through this lens then you are blind to the truth. The OT is filled with those who have faith in the coming Savior and what He will do. The NT is filled with those who have faith in the risen Savior and what He has done. Either way they are justified (made righteous) by God because of their faith in Jesus Christ the Savior of all men, especially those who believe.
    The Truth of Jesus Christ does not reside in you as you suppose nor anyone who mis-constures the written word of God and the words of others to satisfy his need to be right. As Jesus might put it: "You are of your father, the devil".
    "That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;" Philippians 2:15 (KJV)

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    • #92
      On Topic: http://www.theologyonline.com/forums...d.php?t=109336

      Would it be wrong to believe Adam was the intended body prepared for the Word to indwell but, Adam, as it was with Jesus, needed to be proven for the investing of it to Him?
      "That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;" Philippians 2:15 (KJV)

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Cross Reference View Post
        The Truth of Jesus Christ does not reside in you as you suppose nor anyone who mis-constures the written word of God and the words of others to satisfy his need to be right. As Jesus might put it: "You are of your father, the devil".
        What you teach is not of Scripture and goes against the very nature of God which I have proved. What I believe in this matter not only lines up with all of Scripture; it lines up with the nature, character, and attributes of the Eternal One. The Bible clearly states that God is sovereign, that He knows all things, and that He never changes. God had planned the need for the Gospel of Jesus Christ before the foundation of the world that we may know Him and He know us through the grace, mercy, and righteousness of His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ. No Jesus; no righteousness. No Jesus; no hope.


        (Ephesians 2:12) Remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world.

        Christ is the Gospel; Christ is our righteousness; Christ is our hope!!! No Jesus; no righteousness. No Jesus; no hope!

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Ardima View Post
          What you teach is not of Scripture and goes against the very nature of God which I have proved. What I believe in this matter not only lines up with all of Scripture; it lines up with the nature, character, and attributes of the Eternal One. The Bible clearly states that God is sovereign, that He knows all things, and that He never changes. God had planned the need for the Gospel of Jesus Christ before the foundation of the world that we may know Him and He know us through the grace, mercy, and righteousness of His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ. No Jesus; no righteousness. No Jesus; no hope.


          (Ephesians 2:12) Remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world.
          . . and no hope for understanding for the one who believes that commentary speak from you.
          "That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;" Philippians 2:15 (KJV)

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          • #95
            God did not place Adam and Eve in the garden so that they would fail

            God [with foreknowledge] placed them in the garden because He KNEW they would fail. That shows wise preplanning.
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            • #96
              Originally posted by Totton Linnet View Post
              God did not place Adam and Eve in the garden so that they would fail

              God [with foreknowledge] placed them in the garden because He KNEW they would fail. That shows wise preplanning.

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