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  • Greeks seek after wisdom!
    Originally posted by Interplanner
    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
    Originally posted by Interplanner
    You're too literal to get it.
    Originally posted by Interplanner
    The New Covenant preceded the Old Covenant.

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    • Originally posted by heir View Post
      We even see a Greek during Christ's earthy ministry and what is she seeking? Answer: a blessing!


      Mark 7:25-27 KJV For a certain woman, whose young daughter had an unclean spirit, heard of him, and came and fell at his feet: 26 The woman was a Greek, a Syrophenician by nation; and she besought him that he would cast forth the devil out of her daughter. 27 But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled: for it is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it unto the dogs.

      She recognized Him as Lord and understood her position

      Mark 7:28 KJV And she answered and said unto him, Yes, Lord: yet the dogs under the table eat of the children's crumbs.

      Mark 7:29 And he said unto her, For this saying go thy way; the devil is gone out of thy daughter.

      The Greeks that Paul encountered during his Acts provoking ministry were heirs according to the promise (Genesis 12:3 KJV, Acts 13:26 KJV, Galatians 3:29 KJV). Paul found in the synagogue of the Jews (Acts 17:1-2 KJV, Acts 18:4 KJV). Their blessing was still a mystery pre-Paul. Their blessing came in the form of the forgiveness of sins (Acts 13:38-39 KJV). IOW, it came by Paul's "my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ according to the revelation of the mystery that was kept secret since the world began,...a mystery hidden in the scriptures (Romans 16:25-27 KJV, 1 Corinthians 2:6-8 KJV, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV).


      We can try all day long, but we cannot say the same thing about the Ephesian Gentiles to whom Paul wrote the letter. The "YOU GENTILES" that Paul became a prisoner of Jesus Christ for (Ephesians 3:1 KJV) in time past were aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world. They are to whom Paul was later sent (Acts 22:21 KJV, Ephesians 1:13 KJV).

      Ephesians 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;Ephesians 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

      These Ephesians (much like the Colossians) were never under any ordinances. On the contrary:

      Ephesians 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

      Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

      The law of commandments contained in ordinances was the wall of partition that was broken down between them (us). Together, we are the twain made one new man (Ephesians 2:15). It is the fellowship of the mystery (Ephesians 3:1-12 KJV). All aboard!

      Another Home Run For Heir !!!

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      • Using the scriptures of the prophets, can you name one blessing that Paul could show to a pagan Gentile?

        Using the scriptures of the prophets, can you name one blessing that Paul could show to a Gentile that believed in the God of Israel?
        Originally posted by Interplanner
        They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
        Originally posted by Interplanner
        You're too literal to get it.
        Originally posted by Interplanner
        The New Covenant preceded the Old Covenant.

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        • Originally posted by SaulToPaul View Post
          Using the scriptures of the prophets, can you name one blessing that Paul could show to a pagan Gentile?

          Using the scriptures of the prophets, can you name one blessing that Paul could show to a Gentile that believed in the God of Israel?
          Whom are you asking oh mysterious one ?

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          • Originally posted by patrick jane View Post
            Whom are you asking oh mysterious one ?
            For the general audience.
            Originally posted by Interplanner
            They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
            Originally posted by Interplanner
            You're too literal to get it.
            Originally posted by Interplanner
            The New Covenant preceded the Old Covenant.

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            • Originally posted by SaulToPaul View Post
              For the general audience.
              I bet saint john w can answer that

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              • Originally posted by patrick jane View Post
                I bet saint john w can answer that
                Probably so, but being so extremely humble, he may defer to another.
                Originally posted by Interplanner
                They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
                Originally posted by Interplanner
                You're too literal to get it.
                Originally posted by Interplanner
                The New Covenant preceded the Old Covenant.

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                • Phenice is in Syria, not Greece, and was then part of the Roman Empire.

                  Jews referred to Gentiles as Greeks as a result of the Greek's prior Roman like empire over all.

                  And way back before that; they referred to Gentiles as Cannanites.

                  All as a derogatory just as the term "UNcircumcision" was also a derogatory by the Jew.

                  Mark is relating that account to fellow Jews; which is why; and you'll appreciate this; why he is so blunt in his derogatory description of her.

                  The sense is the woman was a Gentile; an unclean person.

                  Jesus practically spit on her.

                  She was no "blesser."

                  What she was though; in spite of her "far off...without God; with out hope in the world" was a mom.

                  Out of that she cornered Him; reminded Him of His parable about crumbs, and because she was actually dealing with a Member of the Godhead; He broke from His pattern; reached all the way over to the other side of Romans 11:25 and blessed her in line with Gentile blessing within Israel's coming Millennial Sabbath rest from a sickness.

                  It is an astounding account - this man Jesus was no ordinary Priest, Prophet, or King of Israel; here was the very Lord of Israel's promised Sabbath or Millennial rest.

                  He blessed her within a scope and context He alone had the authority to break with as He saw fit, as Deity.

                  Astounding also, because He had not come to heal in that manner.

                  But, people make something else out of it all, much like they do with what is actually a similar, anomalous moment also - Peter's experience in Acts 10.

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                  • Originally posted by patrick jane View Post
                    Another Home Run For Heir !!!
                    You absolute fool...

                    Kiss up to heir and STP all you want; they still view our faithful brother Justin Johnson and others under some supposed Romans 16:17 anathema.

                    You just don't know what you are agreeing with in STP and heir.

                    They actually hold they alone are faithful to the Mystery in this Acts 28 like two mystery understanding of theirs.

                    Not O'Hair, not Baker, not Stam, not Jordan, not Enyart, not Justin, not anyone who holds to one Mystery; the Lord's Supper and what ever else that is held by the 28ers that these two have confused A9D doctrine with...

                    All I can say to that is more of the same

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                    • Originally posted by SaulToPaul View Post
                      Using the scriptures of the prophets, can you name one blessing that Paul could show to a pagan Gentile?

                      Using the scriptures of the prophets, can you name one blessing that Paul could show to a Gentile that believed in the God of Israel?


                      Anyone?
                      Originally posted by Interplanner
                      They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
                      Originally posted by Interplanner
                      You're too literal to get it.
                      Originally posted by Interplanner
                      The New Covenant preceded the Old Covenant.

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                      • Originally posted by SaulToPaul View Post
                        Greeks seek after wisdom!
                        Am beginning to realize how Greek you and heir are

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                        • Originally posted by SaulToPaul View Post


                          Anyone?
                          Feel free to do so yourself. You won't find it in Rom. 16:26

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                          • Originally posted by Danoh View Post

                            They actually hold they alone are faithful to the Mystery in this Acts 28 like two mystery understanding of theirs.
                            Define the mystery of Christ.
                            Define the mystery of the gospel.
                            Originally posted by Interplanner
                            They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
                            Originally posted by Interplanner
                            You're too literal to get it.
                            Originally posted by Interplanner
                            The New Covenant preceded the Old Covenant.

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                            • Originally posted by Danoh View Post
                              Feel free to do so yourself. You won't find it in Rom. 16:26
                              As I said before, you are not dumb. Pagan Gentiles were promised nothing in the prophets but a curse.
                              Yet, many were blessed with the hearing of the gospel after Acts 28. Why you will not accept it, I don't know.
                              Originally posted by Interplanner
                              They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
                              Originally posted by Interplanner
                              You're too literal to get it.
                              Originally posted by Interplanner
                              The New Covenant preceded the Old Covenant.

                              Comment


                              • Originally posted by SaulToPaul View Post
                                As I said before, you are not dumb. Pagan Gentiles were promised nothing in the prophets but a curse.
                                Yet, many were blessed with the hearing of the gospel after Acts 28. Why you will not accept it, I don't know.
                                Neither I, nor heir, nor you, is dumb.

                                If anything, we each excel above many.

                                At the same time, I am not an Almost 28er, lol

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