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  • Originally posted by lifeisgood View Post
    Sometimes I do not understand why we say 'Paul's gospel'. Was Peter, etc. saved under Paul's Gospel? or do we consider that Peter. etc. was not saved BEFORE Paul came into the scene? There is no such thing as Paul's Gospel. It is the same problem I have when people tell me that it is the Revelation of John. There is no such thing as the revelation of John in the book of Revelation.
    Paul called it his gospel in Romans 2:16 KJV, Romans 16:25 KJV, 2 Timothy 2:8 KJV why shouldn't we? Paul was given the dispensation of the gospel (1 Corinthians 9:17 KJV) having received his gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV) by direct revelation of the risen Lord Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:11-12 KJV).

    That which Peter preached was that which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began (Acts 3:21 KJV) while Paul's gospel was kept secret since the world began (Romans 16:25-26 KJV) and Paul tells us why (1 Corinthians 2:6-8 KJV). Peter was not saved as we are having now received the atonement, but looks forward to salvation at the second coming of Christ (Acts 3:19-21 KJV, 1 Peter 1:7-13 KJV).
    2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

    Paul defines the word of truth as the gospel of your salvation (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, Ephesians 1:13 KJV). Now, study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed by rightly dividing it!

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    • Originally posted by heir View Post
      Peter was not saved as we are having now received the atonement, but looks forward to salvation at the second coming of Christ (Acts 3:19-21 KJV, 1 Peter 1:7-13 KJV).
      How could you possibly be so confused?

      Here are the Lord Jesus' own words spoken to the Jews who lived under the law:

      "Very truly I tell you, the one who believes has eternal life" (Jn.6:47).


      The Lord Jesus told these Jews that those who believe have "eternal life," not will have eternal life.

      Peter also said the following:

      "God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are" (Acts 15:8-11).

      According to you Peter wasn't yet saved!

      It is obvious that you either don't believe what the Lord Jesus said to the Jews at John 6:47 or you are not even aware that He told the Jews that!

      I would recommend that you read the Bible before you tell others on this forum things which are not true! A little Bible study goes a long way!

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      • Originally posted by Bright Raven View Post

        I get my ideas from Romans through Philemon. Where do you get yours? Yes, I know that Jews who believe in Jesus are saved
        But you said the following:

        If they believed in Paul's gospel.
        The Jews were being saved before Paul was even converted. Here is what the Lord Jesus told them when He walked the earth:

        "Very truly I tell you, the one who believes has eternal life" (Jn.6:47).

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        • Galatians 2:6-9 English Standard Version (ESV)

          6 And from those who seemed to be influential (what they were makes no difference to me; God shows no partiality)—those, I say, who seemed influential added nothing to me. 7 On the contrary, when they saw that I had been entrusted with the gospel to the uncircumcised, just as Peter had been entrusted with the gospel to the circumcised 8 (for he who worked through Peter for his apostolic ministry to the circumcised worked also through me for mine to the Gentiles), 9 and when James and Cephas and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given to me, they gave the right hand of fellowship to Barnabas and me, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised.
          He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

          Jim Elliot

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          • Originally posted by Bright Raven View Post
            Galatians 2:6-9 English Standard Version (ESV)

            6 And from those who seemed to be influential (what they were makes no difference to me; God shows no partiality)—those, I say, who seemed influential added nothing to me. 7 On the contrary, when they saw that I had been entrusted with the gospel to the uncircumcised, just as Peter had been entrusted with the gospel to the circumcised 8 (for he who worked through Peter for his apostolic ministry to the circumcised worked also through me for mine to the Gentiles), 9 and when James and Cephas and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given to me, they gave the right hand of fellowship to Barnabas and me, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised.
            So?

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            • Originally posted by Jerry Shugart View Post

              So?
              You don't have anything to say about two gospels, one to Peter and one to Paul?
              He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

              Jim Elliot

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