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Does anyone believe in Evolution anymore?

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  • #16
    Originally posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
    Exiting thread.
    Where is the evidence for a global flood?
    E≈mc2
    "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

    "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
    -Bob B.

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    • #17
      Nobody ever "believed" evolution. People "believe" in Christianity. People "believe" in Islam. "Belief" is not part of the discussion of a scientific theory.

      Do scientists still think evolution is a good theory? Yes, of course. There is a lot of evidence for it, despite the OP. No amount of wishful thinking will make this go away. Scientists will change their minds when there is evidence that the theory is wrong. So far, that hasn't happened.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by chair View Post
        Scientists will change their minds when there is evidence that the theory is wrong. So far, that hasn't happened.
        A theory that doesn't have any problems is probably being held together by religious fanaticism.
        Where is the evidence for a global flood?
        E≈mc2
        "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

        "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
        -Bob B.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
          Do you think that the Bible cannot be understood without interpretation? If so, why?

          In other words, if it were possible to understand scripture simply by reading it plainly, taking what it says as-is without interpreting it, would that not be better than trying to force meaning onto it that isn't explicitly stated in the text?
          Wait, so Biblical hermeneutics isn't worthwhile?
          “To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

          ― Theodore Roosevelt

          Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem

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          • #20
            Originally posted by WizardofOz View Post
            Wait, so Biblical hermeneutics isn't worthwhile?
            We haven't gotten that far in the discussion, yet.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Stripe View Post
              A theory that doesn't have any problems is probably being held together by religious fanaticism.
              Science is independent of religion or bias and any theory that becomes established does so after continual testing, stringent processing, scrutiny and ongoing peer review. The fact that evolution is globally accepted has nothing to do with "religious fanaticism" and that's an absurd thing to even posit.
              Well this is fun isn't it?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
                Do you think that the Bible cannot be understood without interpretation? If so, why?
                If it could, then every man-made, sola scriptura sect would agree 100% on doctrine. Yet there are literally thousands of denominations with contradicting doctrine, all claiming to base their teaching on only the Bible. How does that happen?
                Your "catholic" is showing. - Sozo

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
                  Science is independent of ... bias....
                  Speaking as a professional scientist, I can tell you that you are wrong wrong wrong

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by ok doser View Post
                    Speaking as a professional scientist, I can tell you that you are wrong wrong wrong
                    Well, no. Science itself is not interested in bias, religion, belief or whatever. Gravity exists whether someone believes they'll float if they jump off a cliff by way of. Evolution is established globally because the evidence supports it.
                    Well this is fun isn't it?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
                      Well, no. Science itself is not interested in bias, religion, belief or whatever. Gravity exists whether someone believes they'll float if they jump off a cliff by way of. Evolution is established globally because the evidence supports it.
                      right, you have the layman's understanding, given to kids from third grade on



                      i have the actual experience, having been educated and trained in the field and having worked for decades as a professional scientist, having been published while working as a research scientist

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by ok doser View Post
                        right, you have the layman's understanding, given to kids from third grade on



                        i have the actual experience, having been educated and trained in the field and having worked for decades as a professional scientist, having been published while working as a research scientist
                        Well, no. I won't make claim to be a professional scientist as I'm not although I have more than a layman's understanding having known and read people thoroughly versed in the biological field of the sciences and how the scientific process works. Nobody even needs to be an expert in "the field" to understand that scientific theories don't come about through whims or flights of fancy. Evolution is accepted because of the evidence that supports it, it really is as simple as that.

                        Plus, anyone can make claim to be something on the internet so how about linking to one of these publications? You've certainly not made such a claim as I recall on here.
                        Well this is fun isn't it?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by glassjester View Post
                          If it could, then every man-made,
                          There's your problem.

                          "Man-made."

                          You should let scripture speak for itself sometime. You'd be surprised at how many issues are resolved simply by taking God at His Word.

                          sola scriptura sect would agree 100% on doctrine. Yet there are literally thousands of denominations with contradicting doctrine, all claiming to base their teaching on only the Bible. How does that happen?
                          It happens by people taking things out of context, and by not paying attention to what is being said.

                          Instead of that, they force their preconceived notions on the Bible, rather than letting the Bible correct their preconceived notions.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
                            Well, no.




                            not gonna squabble with a child, sorry

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
                              There's your problem.

                              "Man-made."

                              You should let scripture speak for itself sometime. You'd be surprised at how many issues are resolved simply by taking God at His Word.



                              It happens by people taking things out of context, and by not paying attention to what is being said.

                              Instead of that, they force their preconceived notions on the Bible, rather than letting the Bible correct their preconceived notions.
                              But then who decides what's being taken out of context and which version of the Bible is the most accurately translated from the original texts? There's more than one reason why there's so many differing denominational sects. You discard evolution as a possibility because of a literal reading of Genesis, is that correct? There seems to be an obvious allegorical narrative going on where it's not supposed to be taken literally word for word, much like Revelation in some respects.
                              Well this is fun isn't it?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by ok doser View Post




                                not gonna squabble with a child, sorry
                                You'd only be squabbling with yourself if you were. Without verification, I'm under no obligation to take your claims to be a professional scientist seriously and especially as I don't recall you ever imparting such knowledge on the plethora of "evolution" threads around here as it is.

                                The fact remains, scientific theories do not become established through bias and whim.
                                Well this is fun isn't it?

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