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    Christ never died. His body death is not his soul death as he immediately descended to limbo and began rescuing souls there. At so called death his physical activity stopped for the time being, but his spiritual activity, which is his real life, never ceased at any time. At death he lost his physical qualities temporarily only. It is true too for us with souls. We had seen often in exorcism that a soul lives on after physical death.

    Like begets like. From a living thing another living thing generates, never from a dead thing. A flame kindles another flame. A negative thing can’t generate a positive thing. So darkness can’t beget light. As darkness is absence of light so death is absence of life.

    From his life, conquering hate-death by love-power, we get life of love-power to toil and suffer for our duties, if we seek, otherwise not. Those, saying that by his death we get life, go against reason, even if they are apostles.

    Often people try to impress others by paradoxes. “From Christ’s death we get life” is such a false paradox. There are so many false paradoxes in the catholic made bible to get attention! People brainwashed to these falsehoods can’t let them go. Apostles and Saints too are limited by human limitations.

    We must follow living Christ obeying 2nd commandment and he will guide us step by step as he is guiding me in my muslim mission. Following catholic made scripture’s purported sayings of apostles blindly is suicidal. So such christian world is scheming for suicidal atomic holocaust world war.



  • #2
    Originally posted by stephengoswami View Post


    Christ never died. His body death is not his soul death as he immediately descended to limbo and began rescuing souls there. At so called death his physical activity stopped for the time being, but his spiritual activity, which is his real life, never ceased at any time. At death he lost his physical qualities temporarily only. It is true too for us with souls. We had seen often in exorcism that a soul lives on after physical death.

    Like begets like. From a living thing another living thing generates, never from a dead thing. A flame kindles another flame. A negative thing can’t generate a positive thing. So darkness can’t beget light. As darkness is absence of light so death is absence of life.

    From his life, conquering hate-death by love-power, we get life of love-power to toil and suffer for our duties, if we seek, otherwise not. Those, saying that by his death we get life, go against reason, even if they are apostles.

    Often people try to impress others by paradoxes. “From Christ’s death we get life” is such a false paradox. There are so many false paradoxes in the catholic made bible to get attention! People brainwashed to these falsehoods can’t let them go. Apostles and Saints too are limited by human limitations.

    We must follow living Christ obeying 2nd commandment and he will guide us step by step as he is guiding me in my muslim mission. Following catholic made scripture’s purported sayings of apostles blindly is suicidal. So such christian world is scheming for suicidal atomic holocaust world war.



    It's not ( Jesus' Life )! Jesus IS the Life of God, so it's God's Life that was taken, and He is also the "Resurrection", OOOHHH YESSS!! - God didn't die, He ain't Dead to the living, is dead to the lost!!! --- Now what???

    Paul -- 091412
    ---Gal. 4:16.
    ---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Letsargue View Post
      It's not ( Jesus' Life )! Jesus IS the Life of God, so it's God's Life that was taken, and He is also the "Resurrection", OOOHHH YESSS!! - God didn't die, He ain't Dead to the living, is dead to the lost!!! --- Now what???

      Only life exists, not death which is the absence of it. Only light exists; not darkness which is relative absence of it. Only positive exists, negative is the absence of it.

      Paul -- 091412

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      • #4
        Christ had to prove He has power over death. If He had simply escaped death for a time, that would prove nothing. He had to overcome death to prove it, so He had to actually die and be actually raised. Because He has done this, we know we can have eternal life by believing in Him.

        Now you say, "His body death is not his soul death." Christians already know this (it's an integral part of basic Christian theology about the soul). And we know subjectively we have life through Christ's spirit. But the objective work was Christ offering His life up for all so that all may receive His eternal life. Christ said, "It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you." (John 16:7). In Christian theology, the Comforter is Christ's spirit.
        James 3:17
        But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by stephengoswami View Post

          Christ never died. His body death is not his soul death as he immediately descended to limbo and began rescuing souls there.
          The muslims never understood this whole affair because they never took note of the difference between the son-of-man and the son-of-god.

          Jesus was the son-of-man.
          He had appeared as do we all, coming intot eh world eating and drinking, a wine bibber and a glutton.

          But he was trancfigured during his Near death Exoerience when John Baptized him.
          The Spirit of God then came down and indwelled the body of Jesus, transfiguring him into the son-of-God, the Christ:



          Mat 3:16
          And Jesus, (the- son-of-man), when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, (in this ritual of Plerosis), and he saw the Spirit of God, (as had also indwelled the immortal Elijah), descending like a dove, and lighting upon him, (in a filling up by the indwelling spirit of God which had also indwelled Elijah):



          This incarnation of the spirit, the mental image of God, was the moment in time when Jesus was transfigured into the son-of-God:


          Mat 3:17 (Then, and only then, does the son-of-God appear),…
          And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This, (now), is my beloved Son, (aka, also the immortal Elijah), in whom I am well pleased.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mike C. View Post
            Christ had to prove He has power over death. If He had simply escaped death for a time, that would prove nothing. He had to overcome death to prove it, so He had to actually die and be actually raised. Because He has done this, we know we can have eternal life by believing in Him.

            Now you say, "His body death is not his soul death." Christians already know this (it's an integral part of basic Christian theology about the soul). And we know subjectively we have life through Christ's spirit. But the objective work was Christ offering His life up for all so that all may receive His eternal life. Christ said, "It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you." (John 16:7). In Christian theology, the Comforter is Christ's spirit.
            That means departure in body but not in soul. In this form he promised to be always with us and lives with us. A negetive thing cant generate a positive thing

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            • #7
              Originally posted by dave3712 View Post
              The muslims never understood this whole affair because they never took note of the difference between the son-of-man and the son-of-god.

              Jesus was the son-of-man.
              He had appeared as do we all, coming intot eh world eating and drinking, a wine bibber and a glutton.

              But he was trancfigured during his Near death Exoerience when John Baptized him.
              The Spirit of God then came down and indwelled the body of Jesus, transfiguring him into the son-of-God, the Christ:



              Mat 3:16
              And Jesus, (the- son-of-man), when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, (in this ritual of Plerosis), and he saw the Spirit of God, (as had also indwelled the immortal Elijah), descending like a dove, and lighting upon him, (in a filling up by the indwelling spirit of God which had also indwelled Elijah):



              This incarnation of the spirit, the mental image of God, was the moment in time when Jesus was transfigured into the son-of-God:


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              Rather his tranformation took place when he fasted in the desert. Only Cross transforms by purifying

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              • #8
                Yeah it's obvious THE ETERNAL WORD OF GOD,THE SON OF MAN,didn't die. Because as soon as THE FLESH{JESUS THE MAN} WHICH HOUSED THE WORD{CHRIST THE GOD} SAID: "IT IS FINISHED". The veil of the temple from the top,unto the bottom was split in two. But the Flesh of the Body of CHRIST layed in the tomb 3days dead,until on the 3rd HE was risen from the dead,and Lives Forever More In the Glory of HIS FATHER,AND OF HIS HOLY SPIRIT ETERNAL AND FOREVER MORE.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by stephengoswami View Post
                  That means departure in body but not in soul. In this form he promised to be always with us and lives with us. A negetive thing cant generate a positive thing
                  Christians know Christ died bodily and not spiritually. Spiritually, He cannot die, since He is the source of Life.

                  The physical death of Jesus is like the climax of a story that pulls all the elements together. Without the climax, the story falls apart. If you take away the death of Jesus, His faithfulness to God and His overcoming death is never proven.
                  James 3:17
                  But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mike C. View Post
                    Christians know Christ died bodily and not spiritually. Spiritually, He cannot die, since He is the source of Life.

                    The physical death of Jesus is like the climax of a story that pulls all the elements together. Without the climax, the story falls apart. If you take away the death of Jesus, His faithfulness to God and His overcoming death is never proven.
                    Then Christ should die again and again to prove his faithfulness and victory over death!!
                    As darkness doesn't exist by itself, death also doesn't. As darkness is absence of light, so death is absence of life, the real thing. Christ had life always

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by stephengoswami View Post
                      Then Christ should die again and again to prove his faithfulness and victory over death!!
                      God had other plans; He left a record of Christ's death in the New Testament. All who know God know that that record is true.

                      As darkness doesn't exist by itself, death also doesn't. As darkness is absence of light, so death is absence of life, the real thing. Christ had life always
                      Right. Christ is alive forever, past to future. His body died, though.
                      James 3:17
                      But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mike C. View Post
                        God had other plans; He left a record of Christ's death in the New Testament. All who know God know that that record is true.


                        Right. Christ is alive forever, past to future. His body died, though.
                        According to Indian philosophy and some deeper European philosophers, perception of material things including the material body is illusion “maya”. The underlying reality is spiritual. In death and resurrection this illusion ceased, but real body remained

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by stephengoswami View Post


                          Christ never died.

                          Liar.

                          Romans 14 KJV
                          (9) For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.

                          We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
                          They already know monsters exist.
                          We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by stephengoswami View Post
                            According to Indian philosophy and some deeper European philosophers, perception of material things including the material body is illusion “maya”. The underlying reality is spiritual. In death and resurrection this illusion ceased, but real body remained
                            Christianity is definitely not Indian or European philosophy, which is why we have no issue calling the death of Christ important. Perhaps if you wish to follow Christ, you should adopt the same type of philosophy he adopted.
                            James 3:17
                            But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by stephengoswami View Post


                              Christ never died. His body death is not his soul death as he immediately descended to limbo and began rescuing souls there. At so called death his physical activity stopped for the time being, but his spiritual activity, which is his real life, never ceased at any time. At death he lost his physical qualities temporarily only. It is true too for us with souls. We had seen often in exorcism that a soul lives on after physical death.

                              Like begets like. From a living thing another living thing generates, never from a dead thing. A flame kindles another flame. A negative thing can’t generate a positive thing. So darkness can’t beget light. As darkness is absence of light so death is absence of life.

                              From his life, conquering hate-death by love-power, we get life of love-power to toil and suffer for our duties, if we seek, otherwise not. Those, saying that by his death we get life, go against reason, even if they are apostles.

                              Often people try to impress others by paradoxes. “From Christ’s death we get life” is such a false paradox. There are so many false paradoxes in the catholic made bible to get attention! People brainwashed to these falsehoods can’t let them go. Apostles and Saints too are limited by human limitations.

                              We must follow living Christ obeying 2nd commandment and he will guide us step by step as he is guiding me in my muslim mission. Following catholic made scripture’s purported sayings of apostles blindly is suicidal. So such christian world is scheming for suicidal atomic holocaust world war.


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