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  • Originally posted by IMJerusha View Post
    I grew up using both Greek and Hebrew. Why are you so bothered by my use of Hebrew? I've been led to where I am now and I'm content. I don't enforce the Sabbath, I observe it. You're sort of uneducated when it comes to Messianic Judaism but mostly, you don't know the God you claim. Very sad.
    You have the right to use any language you wish! However,
    you must be mindful of the fact that, some people (perhaps
    most) won't know what you're talking about! That may
    hinder your message!

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    • Originally posted by Grosnick Marowbe View Post
      You have the right to use any language you wish! However,
      you must be mindful of the fact that, some people (perhaps
      most) won't know what you're talking about! That may
      hinder your message!
      I-N-T-E-R-N-E-T!!!
      I AM the pie lady!!

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      • Originally posted by IMJerusha View Post
        I-N-T-E-R-N-E-T!!!
        Some may not bother looking! Your message/statement is in vain, then!

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        • Originally posted by Grosnick Marowbe View Post
          Some may not bother looking! Your message/statement is in vain, then!
          God is in Control!
          I AM the pie lady!!

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          • Originally posted by genuineoriginal View Post
            And I believe that no one is actually saved until the resurrection.
            Until then, there is always a possibility of turning away, as Jesus and the apostles warned about over and over.
            But never Paul. I wonder why that is...

            Once someone is truly saved at the resurrection, then salvation will have become a past event instead of a promise for the future.
            Stuck in the old dispensation, I see.

            And I don't have that confusion. When someone turns away from the narrow way, they end up on the broad path that leads to destruction.
            They do not have to stay on the broad path, but can return to the narrow way and not have their name blotted out from the book of life.
            When someone apostatizes, they face the very real possibility of never being able to return to the narrow way, because they will have had their name blotted out from the book of life.
            What confusion?

            And as for that last part, if true then the parable of the Prodigal Son is a lie; are you calling Jesus a liar?
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            • Originally posted by Lighthouse View Post
              But never Paul. I wonder why that is...
              Learn to read what is written.

              Romans 11:19-21
              19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
              20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
              21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.



              Originally posted by Lighthouse View Post
              Stuck in the old dispensation, I see.
              The scriptures talk about covenants and stewardship. I am in the New Covenant. There is no such thing as the old stewardship in the scriptures.

              Originally posted by Lighthouse View Post
              What confusion?
              The whole OSAS confusion over who was actually "saved" and who wasn't actually "saved".
              On the one hand, you have a person being able to commit murders with impunity because he was already "saved".
              On the other hand, you have a person that was not actually "saved" because he is committing murders.

              Originally posted by Lighthouse View Post
              And as for that last part, if true then the parable of the Prodigal Son is a lie; are you calling Jesus a liar?
              The parable of the Prodigal Son is about how God reacts to a sinner that repents and approaches Him humbly asking for forgiveness.
              God is willing to forgive those who confess their sins and ask for forgiveness.

              John talked about the same thing.

              1 John 1:6-10
              6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
              7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
              8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
              9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.


              If we claim we are OSAS, and refuse to live righteously, we are lying.
              If we live righteously, we can rely on the blood of Jesus to cleanse us from all sin.
              If we claim we are OSAS and that means our wicked actions is not technically sin, we are only deceiving ourselves.
              If we understand that our wicked actions are sin and confess them, He will forgive us and clean us.
              Learn to read what is written.

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              The people who are supposed to be experts and who claim to understand the science are precisely the people who are blind to the evidence.
              ~ Dr Freeman Dyson

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              • Originally posted by genuineoriginal View Post
                Learn to read what is written.

                Romans 11:19-21
                19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
                20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
                21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.




                The scriptures talk about covenants and stewardship. I am in the New Covenant. There is no such thing as the old stewardship in the scriptures.


                The whole OSAS confusion over who was actually "saved" and who wasn't actually "saved".
                On the one hand, you have a person being able to commit murders with impunity because he was already "saved".
                On the other hand, you have a person that was not actually "saved" because he is committing murders.


                The parable of the Prodigal Son is about how God reacts to a sinner that repents and approaches Him humbly asking for forgiveness.
                God is willing to forgive those who confess their sins and ask for forgiveness.

                John talked about the same thing.

                1 John 1:6-10
                6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
                7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
                8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
                9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.


                If we claim we are OSAS, and refuse to live righteously, we are lying.
                If we live righteously, we can rely on the blood of Jesus to cleanse us from all sin.
                If we claim we are OSAS and that means our wicked actions is not technically sin, we are only deceiving ourselves.
                If we understand that our wicked actions are sin and confess them, He will forgive us and clean us.
                You fail to understand Paul.
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