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  • #16
    Originally posted by Interplanner View Post
    This section was written during the Babylonian captivity, to give hope to believers who were in Israel for their future. When they did get back to Israel and somewhat of a settled life, there were two disparate developments. One, that it was ridiculously inferior to what they had in David's time, and then when the 1st century came there was the excessive rebuilding of a temple fraught with contradiction by the Herod family.

    Neither of which are meant by Isaiah's 'city no longer deserted.' The NT is quite clear that there is already a city above, an indestructible kingdom, and it interacts with it. Those resurrected in Mt 27 were there afterward. Paul calls it our mother and it provides hope now, thought it is hanging above.

    It is unthinkable that there would be another episode of a Jerusalem when the prophet said the one coming would not be called desolate (and the capitol in Judea was called desolated), when the NT is already enjoying the benefit of the mother city.
    Yep (Heb 11:10).
    Delight yourself in the LORD, And He shall give you the desires of your heart. . Psalms 37:4

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    • #17
      Originally posted by SaulToPaul View Post
      Nah.
      Jn 3:31-33, 34-36, Mt 11:27, 21:22, Mk 9:23, Rom 8:32, 1Cor 3:21,22,23, Eph 1:10-11, 22, Heb 1:2, 2:10, 2Pet 1:3,4, 2Cor 5:17, Rev 21:1-7, not mention the many other places where Paul speaks of our spiritual and heavenly riches in Messiah, that is, those who are indeed become joint-heirs with him, (as adopted sons).

      Revelation 21:7 KJV (T/R)
      7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

      Revelation 21:7 ASV (W/H)
      7 He that overcometh shall inherit these things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by daqq View Post
        Jn 3:31-33, 34-36, Mt 11:27, 21:22, Mk 9:23, Rom 8:32, 1Cor 3:21,22,23, Eph 1:10-11, 22, Heb 1:2, 2:10, 2Pet 1:3,4, 2Cor 5:17, Rev 21:1-7, not mention the many other places where Paul speaks of our spiritual and heavenly riches in Messiah, that is, those who are indeed become joint-heirs with him, (as adopted sons).

        Revelation 21:7 KJV (T/R)
        7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

        Revelation 21:7 ASV (W/H)
        7 He that overcometh shall inherit these things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
        You cannot make the earth, the city, and the heavens the same inheritance no matter how badly you desire to.
        Originally posted by Interplanner
        They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
        Originally posted by Interplanner
        You're too literal to get it.
        Originally posted by Interplanner
        The New Covenant preceded the Old Covenant.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by SaulToPaul View Post
          You cannot make the earth, the city, and the heavens the same inheritance no matter how badly you desire to.
          I didn't, the scripture teaches these things, including the writings of Paul who teaches that the women are the cities are the covenants in Galatians 4, as already quoted from a passage that everyone here is surely familiar with, and whose gospel and teachings you claim to understand and uphold. If you have a false covenant or false understanding of the covenant according to the mind of the flesh then you have a reprobate mystery Babylon version of the covenant and your city will be burned down to the ground with fire so that you may be clothed from on High, (in the time appointed of the Father when a child becomes a son, Gal 4:1-2).

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          • #20
            Originally posted by daqq View Post
            I didn't, the scripture teaches these things, including the writings of Paul who teaches that the women are the cities are the covenants in Galatians 4, as already quoted from a passage that everyone here is surely familiar with, and whose gospel and teachings you claim to understand and uphold. If you have a false covenant or false understanding of the covenant according to the mind of the flesh then you have a reprobate mystery Babylon version of the covenant and your city will be burned down to the ground with fire so that you may be clothed from on High, (in the time appointed of the Father when a child becomes a son, Gal 4:1-2).
            Paul's ANALOGY in Galatians simply demonstrated the difference between the FREE and the ENSLAVED.
            There will be a new heaven, a new earth, and the city. God's children will fill them all, according to their inheritance.
            Originally posted by Interplanner
            They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
            Originally posted by Interplanner
            You're too literal to get it.
            Originally posted by Interplanner
            The New Covenant preceded the Old Covenant.

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