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  • Originally posted by Grosnick Marowbe View Post
    Seconded.
    "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
    Terence Mc Lean

    [most will be very surprised]


    Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
    By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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    • Originally posted by Lazy afternoon View Post
      Gurucam,

      Will you get off this thread.

      You made your own thread , will you at least go there and stop interrupting this one.

      Thanks.

      LA
      Quit being bossy, bossy. Got a problem with a poster, you report it to a mod. Which you're not. Your new membership has gone to your head, just like we knew it would.
      "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
      Terence Mc Lean

      [most will be very surprised]


      Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
      By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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      • Originally posted by musterion View Post
        Quit being bossy, bossy. Got a problem with a poster, you report it to a mod. Which you're not. Your new membership has gone to your head, just like we knew it would.
        LA now thinks she/he is King/Queen of TOL! Next, she'll start
        banning posters!

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        • Originally posted by SaulToPaul View Post
          This poster doesn't believe the good news, apparently.
          Originally posted by Lazy afternoon View Post
          Even the devil believes, but he would not humble himself to ask for forgiveness, like many men today who think by believing alone they are saved from the wrath to come.

          Neither does LA lost
          2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

          Paul defines the word of truth as the gospel of your salvation (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, Ephesians 1:13 KJV). Now, study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed by rightly dividing it!

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          • 2Pe 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction.
            2Pe 2:2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed.
            2Pe 2:3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.
            2Pe 2:4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;
            2Pe 2:5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly;
            2Pe 2:6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly;
            2Pe 2:7 and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked
            2Pe 2:8 (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)—
            2Pe 2:9 then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment,
            2Pe 2:10 and especially those who walk according to the flesh in the lust of uncleanness and despise authority. They are presumptuous, self-willed. They are not afraid to speak evil of dignitaries,
            2Pe 2:11 whereas angels, who are greater in power and might, do not bring a reviling accusation against them before the Lord.
            2Pe 2:12 But these, like natural brute beasts made to be caught and destroyed, speak evil of the things they do not understand, and will utterly perish in their own corruption,
            2Pe 2:13 and will receive the wages of unrighteousness, as those who count it pleasure to carouse in the daytime. They are spots and blemishes, carousing in their own deceptions while they feast with you,
            2Pe 2:14 having eyes full of adultery and that cannot cease from sin, enticing unstable souls. They have a heart trained in covetous practices, and are accursed children.
            2Pe 2:15 They have forsaken the right way and gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Beor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
            2Pe 2:16 but he was rebuked for his iniquity: a dumb donkey speaking with a man's voice restrained the madness of the prophet.
            2Pe 2:17 These are wells without water, clouds carried by a tempest, for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.
            2Pe 2:18 For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped from those who live in error.
            2Pe 2:19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage.
            2Pe 2:20 For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning.
            2Pe 2:21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them.
            2Pe 2:22 But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: "A DOG RETURNS TO HIS OWN VOMIT," and, "a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire."
            My theology is that the elect of Israel became the scattered church among the nations, and when filled up with the full number of gentiles who believe to become one with them, then Christ will return and gather them, and God will then pour out His wrath on the unbelievers of both Jew and Gentile.

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            • Originally posted by Lazy afternoon View Post
              2Pe 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction.
              2Pe 2:2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed.
              2Pe 2:3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.
              2Pe 2:4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;
              2Pe 2:5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly;
              2Pe 2:6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly;
              2Pe 2:7 and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked
              2Pe 2:8 (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)—
              2Pe 2:9 then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment,
              2Pe 2:10 and especially those who walk according to the flesh in the lust of uncleanness and despise authority. They are presumptuous, self-willed. They are not afraid to speak evil of dignitaries,
              2Pe 2:11 whereas angels, who are greater in power and might, do not bring a reviling accusation against them before the Lord.
              2Pe 2:12 But these, like natural brute beasts made to be caught and destroyed, speak evil of the things they do not understand, and will utterly perish in their own corruption,
              2Pe 2:13 and will receive the wages of unrighteousness, as those who count it pleasure to carouse in the daytime. They are spots and blemishes, carousing in their own deceptions while they feast with you,
              2Pe 2:14 having eyes full of adultery and that cannot cease from sin, enticing unstable souls. They have a heart trained in covetous practices, and are accursed children.
              2Pe 2:15 They have forsaken the right way and gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Beor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
              2Pe 2:16 but he was rebuked for his iniquity: a dumb donkey speaking with a man's voice restrained the madness of the prophet.
              2Pe 2:17 These are wells without water, clouds carried by a tempest, for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.
              2Pe 2:18 For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped from those who live in error.
              2Pe 2:19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage.
              2Pe 2:20 For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning.
              2Pe 2:21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them.
              2Pe 2:22 But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: "A DOG RETURNS TO HIS OWN VOMIT," and, "a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire."
              There you go, TOL members-her MO: spam a cut'npaste string of verses, that she has loaded up in her "This string of verses rebuts any post bag of tricks," and fire away.

              Genesis-Revelation.


              So there.
              Saint John W

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              • Originally posted by john w View Post
                There you go, TOL members-her MO: spam a cut'npaste string of verses, that she has loaded up in her "This string of verses rebuts any post bag of tricks," and fire away.

                Genesis-Revelation.


                So there.
                You're right! She's got, quite a habit of doing that! I think, most
                of the time she's trying to use the Scriptures as a weapon against
                those she hates? Which is almost everybody on TOL, I would wager?

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                • Originally posted by heir View Post
                  Neither does LA lost
                  LA is quite the little "predictor" of ominous judgments against
                  those she deems, an enemy! She's one angry, argumentative,
                  and judgmental 'Misanthrope!'

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                  • Originally posted by Grosnick Marowbe View Post
                    LA is quite the little "predictor" of ominous judgments against
                    those she deems, an enemy! She's one angry, argumentative,
                    and judgmental 'Misanthrope!'
                    Mat 7:1 "Judge not, that you be not judged.
                    Mat 7:2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.

                    Mat 5:22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.

                    1Pe 4:17 For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?
                    1Pe 4:18 Now "IF THE RIGHTEOUS ONE IS SCARCELY SAVED, WHERE WILL THE UNGODLY AND THE SINNER APPEAR?"

                    LA
                    My theology is that the elect of Israel became the scattered church among the nations, and when filled up with the full number of gentiles who believe to become one with them, then Christ will return and gather them, and God will then pour out His wrath on the unbelievers of both Jew and Gentile.

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                    • Originally posted by Grosnick Marowbe View Post
                      Huh?
                      Hi , and GM is he says he know something we do not ?

                      dan p

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                      • Originally posted by Lazy afternoon View Post
                        Mat 7:1 "Judge not, that you be not judged.
                        Mat 7:2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.

                        Mat 5:22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.

                        1Pe 4:17 For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?
                        1Pe 4:18 Now "IF THE RIGHTEOUS ONE IS SCARCELY SAVED, WHERE WILL THE UNGODLY AND THE SINNER APPEAR?"

                        LA

                        What makes you think they will agree with that verse? In fact, they can't ever agree with it. Why? Because no one is righteous __ no not one. They bought into that notion and can't let go regardless of what scripture refutes it.
                        "That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;" Philippians 2:15 (KJV)

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                        • Originally posted by Cross Reference View Post
                          What makes you think they will agree with that verse? In fact, they can't ever agree with it. Why? Because no one is righteous __ no not one. They bought into that notion and can't let go regardless of what scripture refutes it.
                          I do not have to apply it.

                          Jesus does if they are seeking Him and not their own self righteousness.

                          The reader is held responsible for what they do with it.

                          The wild dogs of the north will come and destroy all religion based even slightly upon the Bible.

                          Only those sealed will escape it.

                          (the sealing occurs after conversion not at it)

                          I will start a thread on it later.

                          LA
                          My theology is that the elect of Israel became the scattered church among the nations, and when filled up with the full number of gentiles who believe to become one with them, then Christ will return and gather them, and God will then pour out His wrath on the unbelievers of both Jew and Gentile.

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                          • Originally posted by Lazy afternoon View Post
                            I do not have to apply it.

                            Jesus does if they are seeking Him and not their own self righteousness.

                            The reader is held responsible for what they do with it.

                            The wild dogs of the north will come and destroy all religion based even slightly upon the Bible.

                            Only those sealed will escape it.

                            (the sealing occurs after conversion not at it)

                            I will start a thread on it later.

                            LA
                            I don't believe it is referring "self" righteous but to this:

                            "I came not to call the righteous, but sinners [and otherwise, "self-righteous"] to repentance." Luke 5:32 (KJV)

                            So lets leave "self righteousness" out of it because He is not referring to it but a righteousness man is entirely capable of living. They are the ones who need only to be informed to be made disciples. No repentance is necessary.

                            [Emphasis mine]
                            "That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;" Philippians 2:15 (KJV)

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                            • Originally posted by Lazy afternoon View Post
                              Mat 7:1 "Judge not, that you be not judged.
                              Mat 7:2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.

                              Mat 5:22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.

                              1Pe 4:17 For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?
                              1Pe 4:18 Now "IF THE RIGHTEOUS ONE IS SCARCELY SAVED, WHERE WILL THE UNGODLY AND THE SINNER APPEAR?"

                              LA
                              You use copious amounts of Scripture but, you don't have a comment
                              or point you're trying to make? It's best to have a reason for using
                              the Scripture you put forth. We ALL have access to a Bible. It's OK
                              to use Scripture as a reference however, just to post a bunch of
                              verses without saying anything, makes no sense?

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                              • Originally posted by Cross Reference View Post
                                I don't believe it is referring "self" righteous but to this:

                                "I came not to call the righteous, but sinners [and otherwise, "self-righteous"] to repentance." Luke 5:32 (KJV)

                                So lets leave "self righteousness" out of it because He is not referring to it but a righteousness man is entirely capable of living. They are the ones who need only to be informed to be made disciples. No repentance is necessary.

                                [Emphasis mine]
                                LA claims he is "Superior to GM!" Do you feel superior to anyone
                                on TOL?

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