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  • chair
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    Originally posted by ok doser View Post
    i'd have to study the text more closely than I have time for right now
    This is the most honest answer I've seen on this site in a long time.

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  • ok doser
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    but to get back to my request for you to hold up nine fingers, i think we'd both understand what you were doing if you did this:

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  • ok doser
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    Originally posted by chair View Post
    Depends if you count thumbs as fingers. You said that you didn't. So I would not be able to do what you asked.

    So, getting back to birds- did God differentiate between clean and unclean birds? I don't see that in my text. He did so for other animals, but not for birds.

    i'd have to study the text more closely than I have time for right now

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  • chair
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    Originally posted by ok doser View Post
    If I tell you to hold up nine fingers, what do you do?
    Depends if you count thumbs as fingers. You said that you didn't. So I would not be able to do what you asked.

    So, getting back to birds- did God differentiate between clean and unclean birds? I don't see that in my text. He did so for other animals, but not for birds.

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  • ok doser
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    Originally posted by chair View Post
    If I say "hold up two fingers", then I say "hold up seven fingers"- how many do you hold up?
    If I tell you to hold up nine fingers, what do you do?

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  • ok doser
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    Originally posted by chair View Post
    If I say "hold up two fingers", ...how many do you hold up?
    Unless I chop off two, I hold up four (plus one thumb) - two extended up and two curled into my palm

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  • chair
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    Originally posted by ok doser View Post
    I have two fingers on my hands. One I use for scratching my nose, one I use for scratching my butt.


    How many fingers do I have on my hands?


    Some people would say two, those who could see my hands might say ten.

    As it turns out, the correct answer is 8, plus two thumbs.
    If I say "hold up two fingers", then I say "hold up seven fingers"- how many do you hold up?

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  • ok doser
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    Originally posted by chair View Post
    My point is this. 2 is not 7.


    I have two fingers on my hands. One I use for scratching my nose, one I use for scratching my butt.


    How many fingers do I have on my hands?


    Some people would say two, those who could see my hands might say ten.

    As it turns out, the correct answer is 8, plus two thumbs.

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  • chair
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    Originally posted by ok doser View Post
    ok

    that's your opinion

    period
    My point is this. 2 is not 7. The excuses that work for the other animals (clean vs. unclean) don't work here. What kind of "expansion" of instructions says "um, take 7, not 2! When I said 2, I meant 7!" This isn't a matter of viewpoint or belief.

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  • ok doser
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    Originally posted by chair View Post
    The texts are contradictory. Period.
    ok

    that's your opinion

    period

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  • chair
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    Originally posted by Lon View Post
    Either Moses was inept OR you are missing something. I USUALLY assume the guy reading it is the one that is missing something

    He certainly brought 7 of all sacrificial animals. If you read 'two' after it isn't a contradiction but an 'addition.' Isn't that a 'reading' problem, not a conveyance problem? I realize where you are at on most of this, but I'm just saying it isn't everybody's answer. It depends upon where you are coming from. I don't think I ever asked: Do you believe there is a God?
    There is a God.
    The texts are contradictory. Period.

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  • Lon
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    Originally posted by chair View Post
    You can repeat how much you believe and trust 1,000 times, yet Noah took either 2 or 7 of each kind of bird- not 2 and 7. Either David killed Goliath, or Elchanan did. Not both. EIther Satan tempted David, or God did. Not both.

    By the way. please note that I am not a Christian, and have no interest in your heaven.
    Either Moses was inept OR you are missing something. I USUALLY assume the guy reading it is the one that is missing something

    He certainly brought 7 of all sacrificial animals. If you read 'two' after it isn't a contradiction but an 'addition.' Isn't that a 'reading' problem, not a conveyance problem? I realize where you are at on most of this, but I'm just saying it isn't everybody's answer. It depends upon where you are coming from. I don't think I ever asked: Do you believe there is a God?

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  • Lon
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    Originally posted by Bee1 View Post
    Since the time of Moses to now, not much has change in the Middle East geographically speaking. No violence volcanoes or ground changing earthquakes. From the Libya/Eygtian border to Red sea to Israel is about 750 miles. Average walking speed is 4 miles a day so about 175 hours non-stop. So let's slow that down to 1 mile a day = 4×175=700 hours. Let's rest 1 day for every mile (2 million plus people) that's 750 days + 700 hours. The Israelites did not travel in a straight line so let double the distant to 1,500 miles and travel 1/2 mile every 2 days, not even close to 40 years. I know there are some who think that I am being facetious but 40 years to walk 1,500 miles ? And leave no trace of passage?

    Sent from my SM-J700P using Tapatalk
    Seen this one yet?

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  • Aimiel
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    Originally posted by rstrats View Post
    Aimiel,

    So for all intents and purposes you're saying that you can't reconcile Genesis 6:20 with Genesis 7:3; that you just have to trust that the Creator knows what He's doing and that there has to be an explanation for each seeming contradiction even though you don't know what it is?
    I see where God said that those animals who 'creep' upon the ground by twos and those that fly by sevens. I don't know why, but when you get to Heaven you can ask God.

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  • rstrats
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    Aimiel,

    So for all intents and purposes you're saying that you can't reconcile Genesis 6:20 with Genesis 7:3; that you just have to trust that the Creator knows what He's doing and that there has to be an explanation for each seeming contradiction even though you don't know what it is?

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