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  • #16
    Originally posted by Faither View Post
    So we had to go through all this , when you could have just said you have no qualifications ?

    There's no shame ! Just stop making statements you can't back up .
    I left school at 13 years of age with no qualifications and no abilities. My education began at the age of 43 years when I was converted. I have less than no qualifications. All I have is what I've been given and given abundantly.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Truster View Post
      I left school at 13 years of age with no qualifications and no abilities. My education began at the age of 43 years when I was converted. I have less than no qualifications. All I have is what I've been given and given abundantly.
      There's no doubt I think God would rather work with a blank slate , than have to undo a lifetime of bad teaching . I'm here to help you any way I can if you can lower yourself to your opinion of me .

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Faither View Post
        There's no doubt I think God would rather work with a blank slate , than have to undo a lifetime of bad teaching . I'm here to help you any way I can if you can lower yourself to your opinion of me .
        It would be of great help to me if you put me on ignore. That would mean you would not be continually opposing the truth.

        There is nothing that you have to say that I need to hear. There is nothing that I say that you could possibly hear.
        I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

        "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

        I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
        A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
        If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

        Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

        I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Truster View Post
          It would be of great help to me if you put me on ignore. That would mean you would not be continually opposing the truth.

          There is nothing that you have to say that I need to hear. There is nothing that I say that you could possibly hear.
          Those are the most Spiritual words you've spoken to date !

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Faither View Post
            Those are the most Spiritual words you've spoken to date !
            Those that have been set free by the truth always recognise the truth. You, however, are not only blind to the truth you take every opportunity to oppose the truth. Your anxiety and spiritual discomfort will increase...
            I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

            "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

            I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
            A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
            If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

            Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

            I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Truster View Post
              Those that have been set free by the truth always recognise the truth. You, however, are not only blind to the truth you take every opportunity to oppose the truth. Your anxiety and spiritual discomfort will increase...

              Here's reality .

              1) your making claims your not qualified to make . 2) I called you on it , now your letting the insults fly .
              3) God put the opportunity to start a true relationship with Him in front of you , I think this is twice now , right !
              4) you hate the object He used to bring it to you , so instead of looking at His priceless gift to you , you are content to inflict as much destruction as possible on His vessel .

              Whatever you say or do to me , I will still help you as long as I'm able . I hope you get another chance , very few do .

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Truster View Post
                If you have said that you have a "personal relationship" with Jesus then you might be interested in knowing neither the word "personal" nor "relationship appear in scripture.
                The words personal & relationship are english words/translations. Bible being originally written in Hebrew, Greek and some Aramanic.

                The work of the Holy Spirit:

                He works on us: that is leading us towards Christ.

                Rev: 3:20

                20 Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in and dine with him, and he with Me.

                He works in us: After we accept Jesus as our Savior ... He continues His work (indwelling His Holy Spirit in us) giving us more light.

                Acts 4:31

                31After they had prayed, their meeting place was shaken, and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke the word of God boldly

                He works through us: As our light brightens then we proclaim the good news to others.

                Matthew 28

                18Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

                Yeah it's pretty Personal- nothing more personal than His Spirit dwelling within.

                John 3:16

                Whosoever

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by eleos View Post
                  The words personal & relationship are english words/translations. Bible being originally written in Hebrew, Greek and some Aramanic.

                  The work of the Holy Spirit:

                  He works on us: that is leading us towards Christ.

                  Rev: 3:20

                  20 Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in and dine with him, and he with Me.

                  He works in us: After we accept Jesus as our Savior ... He continues His work (indwelling His Holy Spirit in us) giving us more light.

                  Acts 4:31

                  31After they had prayed, their meeting place was shaken, and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke the word of God boldly

                  He works through us: As our light brightens then we proclaim the good news to others.

                  Matthew 28

                  18Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

                  Yeah it's pretty Personal- nothing more personal than His Spirit dwelling within.

                  John 3:16

                  Whosoever
                  The word personal and the word relationship do not appear in scripture. Neither do any synonyms that directly translate as such. That is a fact. You can twist as much scripture as you wish but everytime you do all it does is takes you further and further from the truth.

                  I have never heard anyone say that they have a "personal relationship" with their father or mother or both. Selah.
                  I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

                  "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

                  I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
                  A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
                  If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

                  Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

                  I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Truster View Post
                    The word personal and the word relationship do not appear in scripture. Neither do any synonyms that directly translate as such. That is a fact. You can twist as much scripture as you wish but everytime you do all it does is takes you further and further from the truth.

                    I have never heard anyone say that they have a "personal relationship" with their father or mother or both. Selah.
                    Neither is the word Trinity, yet I'm pretty sure you don't reject that God is triune simply because the word isn't in the Bible...

                    So what's your point? So what if those words aren't in the Bible? Doesn't mean that the concepts arent.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Truster View Post
                      If you have said that you have a "personal relationship" with Jesus then you might be interested in knowing neither the word "personal" nor "relationship appear in scripture.
                      -----
                      What I am saying is that the relationship the blind and ignorant insist that they have does not have its root in scripture.
                      So?
                      Does it need to be?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Truster View Post
                        The word personal and the word relationship do not appear in scripture. Neither do any synonyms that directly translate as such. That is a fact. You can twist as much scripture as you wish but everytime you do all it does is takes you further and further from the truth.

                        I have never heard anyone say that they have a "personal relationship" with their father or mother or both. Selah.
                        well ... sorry to hear that you do not have a personal relationship with the Lord. Not saying you do not have a relationship with the Lord ..... just not a personal one.

                        God Bless.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by eleos View Post
                          well ... sorry to hear that you do not have a personal relationship with the Lord. Not saying you do not have a relationship with the Lord ..... just not a personal one.

                          God Bless.
                          I am in Messiah. This biblical description conveys far more than the fictional "personal relationship". It is also a reminder of the time I was in Adam and atheist.
                          I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

                          "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

                          I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
                          A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
                          If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

                          Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

                          I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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                          • #28
                            In addition to this, The Messiah will not be heard to say depart from me because ye never had a personal relationship with me.

                            He will, however, say "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:"

                            How can the cursed have a personal relationship with Yah Shua Messiah...
                            I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

                            "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

                            I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
                            A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
                            If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

                            Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

                            I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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