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  • #76
    Originally posted by Bright Raven View Post
    Two words that mean essentially the same thing. Salvation is a state of being. Being saved is to have that state of being.
    I said
    Well according to your definition everyone on earth has salvation. Where did you ever come up with "state of being?

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Squeaky View Post
      I said
      Well according to your definition everyone on earth has salvation.
      Why?

      Where did you ever come up with "state of being?
      "I am saved."

      "Am" is a [YELLOW]'being'[YELLOW] verb.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
        Why?



        "I am saved."

        "Am" is a [YELLOW]'being'[YELLOW] verb.
        I said
        If your alive your saved. To give you a chance to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Now you won't have the fear and trembling until you try to obey the new testament.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Squeaky View Post
          Well according to your definition everyone on earth has salvation.
          Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
          Why?
          Originally posted by Squeaky View Post
          If your alive your saved. To give you a chance to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Now you won't have the fear and trembling until you try to obey the new testament.
          You didn't answer my question.

          Why, according to the definition provided above, does everyone have salvation?

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          • #80
            Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
            You didn't answer my question.

            Why, according to the definition provided above, does everyone have salvation?
            I said
            Your asking the wrong person. I didnt give that definition you should ask him.

            He said
            Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
            Two words that mean essentially the same thing. Salvation is a state of being. Being saved is to have that state of being.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Squeaky View Post
              I said
              Your asking the wrong person. I didnt give that definition you should ask him.

              He said
              Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
              Two words that mean essentially the same thing. Salvation is a state of being. Being saved is to have that state of being.
              No, you asserted:

              Originally posted by Squeaky View Post
              I said
              Well according to your definition everyone on earth has salvation.
              Why is that?

              Why do you assert that?

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              • #82
                Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
                No, you asserted:



                Why is that?

                Why do you assert that?
                I said
                He said
                Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
                Two words that mean essentially the same thing. Salvation is a state of being. Being saved is to have that state of being.

                I said
                Everyone that is alive is in a state of being.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Squeaky View Post
                  I said
                  He said
                  Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
                  Two words that mean essentially the same thing. Salvation is a state of being. Being saved is to have that state of being.

                  I said
                  Everyone that is alive is in a state of being.
                  Sure, but the state of being "alive" is not inherently the state of being "saved". Or do you think that a person can only have one state of being at a time?

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                  • #84
                    [MENTION=16942]JudgeRightly[/MENTION]

                    Talking to Squeaky is like talking to a brick wall.... except the brick wall makes more sense.
                    All of my ancestors are human.
                    Originally posted by Squeaky
                    That explains why your an idiot.
                    Originally posted by God's Truth
                    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
                    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
                    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

                    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
                    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

                    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
                      Sure, but the state of being "alive" is not inherently the state of being "saved". Or do you think that a person can only have one state of being at a time?
                      I said
                      Why isnt it. If your alive you still have hope.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
                        [MENTION=16942]JudgeRightly[/MENTION]

                        Talking to Squeaky is like talking to a brick wall.... except the brick wall makes more sense.
                        I said
                        lol Do you realize that goes both ways.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Squeaky View Post
                          I said
                          Why isnt it. If your alive you still have hope.
                          One can be alive and not saved.

                          We call people in this "state" unbelievers.

                          Do you disagree with that? If so, why?

                          One can also be (but not at the same time as the above) alive and saved.

                          We call people in this state believers.

                          Do you disagree, if so why?

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
                            One can be alive and not saved.

                            We call people in this "state" unbelievers.

                            Do you disagree with that? If so, why?

                            One can also be (but not at the same time as the above) alive and saved.

                            We call people in this state believers.

                            Do you disagree, if so why?
                            I said
                            Everyone was an unbeliever at one time. And no one can be a believer unless God calls them to it. And no one knows who God is going to call tomorrow.

                            [Jhn 6:44, 65
                            [44] "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day. ...
                            [65] And He said, "Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father."

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