Most Christians sin when they pray
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You've never heard of the Ten Commandments? It's literally the first one: Thou shalt have NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME.
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Galatians 3:12 And the law is not of faith:
Paul was telling these goyim Celts that it is not faith ALONE...as having just told them “the Jews shall live by faith”...No sorry...“the goyim should live by faith alone”...no no again sorry...but “for the JUST shall live by faith”...
but the very NEXT verse Paul then tells them it is NOT BY FAITH ALONE...BUT to DO...as in the old Deuteronomy texts...which even back then in the church in the wilderness of the OT...nobody did it without having faith...
Now go read Heb. 11...
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Speak English, because you aren't sounding impressive using a different word of another language here and there.
Since Jesus came---ALL are to live by faith---Jews and Gentiles.
Paul teaches to have faith and obedience.
right it’s NOT the message but the messanger...LOL
ok so again
Paul was telling these gentile Celts that it is NOT by faith ALONE because he had just written “the just shall live by faith” verse 11 which references Hab 2:4 I joked Paul had just written “the Jews shall live by faith” because YOU INSIST it was NOT BY FAITH in the OT...so well there you see it was...
and I also joked “the gentiles shall live by faith” becuase there are some MAD ones around here who like to pretend what was written in Deuteronomy texts does not dispense to them...
But then Paul continues verse 12 “yet the Law is not of faith but ‘the man (see? not just Jews but whosoever believes) who DOES them shall live by them”
Paul was referring to all those texts in Deuteronomy that said “do this and live” ironically it was not to just Jews but to Israel which included goyim...sorry gentiles...foreigners and strangers within their gates...
you REMEMBER the Sabbath...LOL of course you dont...LOL...well...that is the ONLY commandment that SPECIFICALLY addresses the INCLUSION of these NON NATIVE believers...followers of the Israel faith already in the OT when the ekklesia oh again sorry...the church was in the wilderness...
ONE LAW for native and foreigner alike...”do this and live...” which DUH they had faith and did...until they didnt and did what you do...find something else...
but NOT faith ALONE as it compels works...and since the wall between Jews and gentiles has been broken down by Him IN HIM well...the TWO are JOINED into one new man...a citizen of Israel...no longer foreigner but grafted in...and their WORKS their FRUITS are of NO DISTINCTION...
and just like in biology the branch HAS to be within the same family of fruit to properly graft...so your “EVERY DAY IS HOLY...lets eat dog meat” is NOT like what the trunk is...your fruit is NOT at all like what the trunk bears...
There is distinction between you and your ways and well...His people...but Peter was clear the uncircumcised hearts PURIFIED and the “inner jew” of Paul made NO DISTINCTION between believing Jew and believing Gentile possible...and so the Spirit did bless...
right...to copy him as he copied Yahushua...
But YOU DO NOT...you make up your own worship of “every day is Holy...nothing makes us unclean”...and idolatrous abomination NOT AT ALL like what Paul or Yahushua taught or lived...
You keep 9/10 of the law
by LYING 8/10
which then you steal worship from Him 7/10
and kill the Spirit 6/10
and adulterate His with another 5/10
by making an idol 4/10
and a new god with a changeable Law 3/10
because you covet the FREEDOM of the world 2/10
which leaves you with honoring your parents 1/10...
but if you serve them HAM or other unclean and unhealthy food...(your Creator knows best) well...you dishonor them...so 0/10
WOW...not at all what Paul taught—->faith and obedience...
you just have faith...and as Satan only believes...he like YOU does NOT OBEY...”NOT FOR ME” says he...
Right Divider
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It's hilarious that you think that faith is something brand new. :rotfl:
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Paul is NOT saying that faith is not needed under the law.
Your proof-texting is old and boring... and wrong.
Abel knew that faith was required.
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Just show where in the Bible God commands faith in the Old Testament.
Why do you think some of the Jews got cut off when Jesus came? Don't you wonder why they were fine until then? Think about it.
Already did. "Thou shalt have no other gods before me."
It wasn't when Jesus came. It was a year after He left.
:nono: You're premise is false, and so your question is invalid.
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The old law was not based on faith.
God cut off Jews for something---what do you think the reason is?
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That has nothing to do with faith.
It was when Jesus started came.
Luke 19:42 and said, "If you, even you, had only known on this day what would bring you peace--but now it is hidden from your eyes.
Luke 8:10 He said, "The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to others I speak in parables, so that, "'though seeing, they may not see; though hearing, they may not understand.'
So you don't want to tell me why they were fine until Jesus came?
As has been pointed out , Hebrews , is written ti Israel !
Please read Rom 8:26 as we do not know how to pray as it is the HOLY SPIRIT that makes INTERCESSION for the saints , no SINNING that I see here !!
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Sure it does.
Sorry, but having things hidden from one's view doesn't mean that the person is cut off.
Your premise is flawed, so answering the question would affirm your premise, which would be illogical for me to do.
You're question begging. Stop it.
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Don't answer then. My question was to Right Divider and you got in on it. So I only asked you once, and once isn't begging.
:dunce: <- GT
Go look up the term "question begging."
Maybe it'll help you stop doing it.
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You are the one who called it "question begging", instead of "begging the question".
bahahahahahahaaa
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Say it wrong then and call me the dunce. lol lol lol
I wasn't doing any such thing anyway.
The Jews were cut off and hardened while Jesus was on earth.