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  • Nanja
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    Originally posted by beloved57 View Post
    Those Christ died for, and rose again in behalf of are never going to be condemned, and by His death alone for them it accomplished their Justification before God ! Rom 4:25

    25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

    The word justification here
    dikaiĆ³sis means:

    the act of pronouncing righteous, acquittal
    Usage: acquittal, justifying, justification, a process of absolution.

    Its the very same word Paul used in Rom 5:18 for Justification of life, so Christ death for the elect resulted in their Justification of life, which the Resurrection of Christ attests to.

    Amen, Christ's Death and Resurrection from the dead Rom. 4:25, was not only as a private individual [of Himself], but for the Justification of His Body of whom He is their Head. All God's Elect had been Chosen In Union with Him Eph. 1:4 to have forgiveness of sins and an Eternal Inheritance Eph. 1:7, 11; His Church whom He is Head of, and Atoned for Eph. 5:23, 25, 27. So consequently, when Christ was delivered up, so were they; and likewise were raised together with Him to Justification of Life, which Blessedly resulted in them being totally acquitted and absolved from all sin they would commit in time Rom. 4:25, and so were never under condemnation period.

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  • beloved57
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    Those Christ died for, and rose again in behalf of are never going to be condemned, and by His death alone for them it accomplished their Justification before God ! Rom 4:25

    25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

    The word justification here
    dikaiĆ³sis means:

    the act of pronouncing righteous, acquittal
    Usage: acquittal, justifying, justification, a process of absolution.

    Its the very same word Paul used in Rom 5:18 for Justification of life, so Christ death for the elect resulted in their Justification of life, which the Resurrection of Christ attests to.

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  • FineLinen
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    The At one ment: What did it really accomplish?

    1. The identical polus "made sinners">>>"the polus "made righteous."

    2. The Heavenly Big Gulp of thanatos>>>He has swallowed thanatos in victory.

    3. The "whole world" is exactly that: the hilasmos of the whole world.

    Our God is the Source, Guide, Goal of ta panta

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  • beloved57
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    Sister Nanja

    Amen Brother, this Spiritual and Eternal Life was never an offer for any to accept or reject by their so-called freewill as false teachers maintain;
    Thats correct !

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    but was Given to the World of God's Elect, Chosen
    Yes or Sheep

    Christ gives all those He died for a resurrection in this life when they are born again spiritually, which ensures them of being raised up in the Last Day John 6:39 !
    Absolutely !

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  • Nanja
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    Life from Christ !

    One of the effects of the death of Christ for everyone He died for, is that through it, they He died for should live, both spiritually and eternally 1 Jn 4:9-10


    So Christ through His Propitiating death gives life to the world, not a possibility of life Jn 6:33

    For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world The world of the Elect or of His Sheep.

    Amen Brother, this Spiritual and Eternal Life was never an offer for any to accept or reject by their so-called freewill as false teachers maintain; but was Given to the World of God's Elect, Chosen and Loved in Christ before the foundation Eph. 1:3-4. These Vessels of Mercy Rom. 9:23 were made Spiritually Alive / Quickened together with Christ, when He was raised from dead, meaning He gave them Life !


    Eph. 2:4-5

    4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

    5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)


    1 Pet. 1:2-3

    2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

    3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,


    Christ gives all those He died for a resurrection in this life when they are born again spiritually, which ensures them of being raised up in the Last Day John 6:39 !

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  • Aimiel
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    I like the analogy Jesus made about His death before He was crucified:

    Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

    That's the whole story of God's creation: He put a seed upon the earth (man) and it produced much fruit. He put Jesus upon the earth and His death produced sons and daughters. He always gets back more than He puts into it. He produced millions of sons and daughters and the worship they give Him is so much more than what He invested. His sacrifice is the most fruitful thing there has ever been or ever will be. We'll find out about exactly how big, wide, deep and how meaningful every portion of it is. The depths, heights, width and meanings of His Love and His Grace will be studied for eternity and never will we come to an end of finding out just how great He is.

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  • beloved57
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    Life from Christ !

    One of the effects of the death of Christ for everyone He died for, is that through it, they He died for should live, both spiritually and eternally 1 Jn 4:9-10


    So Christ through His Propitiating death gives life to the world, not a possibility of life Jn 6:33

    For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world The world of the Elect or of His Sheep.

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  • beloved57
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    nanja

    Amen ! The word might in 1 John 4:9 denotes God's Purpose of intention and certainty of accomplishment;
    Exactly

    No uncertainty whatsoever, for His Death produces Life John 12:24 which was the objective and Purpose of God for His People: To make them Alive John 10:10b.
    You nailed it Sister !

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  • Nanja
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    Life from Christ !

    One of the effects of the death of Christ for everyone He died for, is that through it, they He died for should live, both spiritually and eternally 1 Jn 4:9-10

    [FONT="]9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

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    [FONT="][/FONT][FONT="]10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

    The fact is, those whom Christ was sent to be the propitiation for their sins [1 Jn 2:1-2] it was so that they should live through[on account of] Him.

    If one has their sins propitiated by Christ, they shall live because of it. Yet not all shall live, so Christ could not have been the propitiation for their sins ![/FONT]
    Amen ! The word might in 1 John 4:9 denotes God's Purpose of intention and certainty of accomplishment; that those for whom Christ was the propitiation for their sins shall Live Spiritually and Eternally. No uncertainty whatsoever, for His Death produces Life John 12:24 which was the objective and Purpose of God for His People: To make them Alive John 10:10b.

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  • beloved57
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    Life from Christ !

    One of the effects of the death of Christ for everyone He died for, is that through it, they He died for should live, both spiritually and eternally 1 Jn 4:9-10

    9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

    10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

    The fact is, those whom Christ was sent to be the propitiation for their sins [1 Jn 2:1-2] it was so that they should live through[on account of] Him.

    If one has their sins propitiated by Christ, they shall live because of it. Yet not all shall live, so Christ could not have been the propitiation for their sins !

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  • FineLinen
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    Originally posted by Nanja View Post
    Absolutely ! Based on Christ's Suretyship from Everlasting Heb. 7:22; Heb. 13:20 for His Church Eph. 5:25 / Sheep John 10:11, 15, they were made Righteous / Justified by His Faith Rom. 5:19 before they are born in time and given to believe on Him Phil. 1:29.
    Adam1= polus "made sinners">>>

    Last Adam= polus "made righteous".

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  • FineLinen
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    Originally posted by Nanja View Post
    Exactly !
    "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

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  • Nanja
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    Originally posted by beloved57 View Post
    It the death of Christ, for those He died, He through His death redeemed them from all iniquity Titus 2:14

    14 [FONT="]Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

    Hence, none for whom He died can be of these here Matt 7:23

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    23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


    ​Christ could never say those words to them He gave Himself for and redeemed them from all iniquity, for they have no iniquity to work !
    Exactly !

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  • Nanja
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    Another accomplishment of Christ's death involving the atonement is this: It gives an inheritance !

    The Death of Christ, is actually the death of the testator, and it activates Covenant Blessings upon them He died for ! Heb 9:14-17

    How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?


    15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.


    16For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
    17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

    The eternal inheritance is eternal life. Its what Paul means here Gal 3:18

    For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise

    And Peter meant here 1 Pet 1:4

    To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

    What Moses meant here Gen 17:8

    And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.

    The word possession in that verse is the hebrew word achuzzah


    possession by right of inheritance, Like Num 27:7

    The daughters of Zelophehad speak right: thou shalt surely give them a possession of an inheritance among their father's brethren; and thou shalt cause the inheritance of their father to pass unto them

    Ezk 46:16

    Thus saith the Lord GOD; If the prince give a gift unto any of his sons, the inheritance thereof shall be his sons'; it shall be their possession by inheritance.

    So the death of Christ bequeaths an inheritance upon them He died for ! That inheritance is inclusive of eternal life !

    Amen, yes it does ! God Promised this Inheritance, the Everlasting Canaan Gen. 17:8 to Abraham and His Spiritual Seed in all generations, which consists of all the Elect of God Chosen In Union with Christ before the foundation to have Eternal Life Eph. 1:4-11.

    1 John 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

    Gal. 3:16; 29

    16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

    29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.


    Titus 1:1-2

    1 Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness; 2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

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  • Nanja
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    Matt 3:15

    15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.

    I believe this includes the fulfilling of the Righteousness of the Law Rom 8:4

    4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

    Christ's coming to the earth was also in regard to keeping the Law, Honoring it as it should have been Isa 42:21

    21 The Lord is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.

    He magnified it by keeping it for His People the Church, Christ as Adam did, did a Representative Work, He lived and died in the behalf of Gods People, those who also had a Representative Union with Him from before the foundation Eph 1:4

    4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

    Christ for this Representative Work had all the fruits and graces of the Spirit Isa 11:1-5

    And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:

    2 And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;

    3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the Lord:
    and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:

    4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth: with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.

    5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.

    He was given the Spirit without measure Jn 3:34

    For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.

    Hence Christ as the Representative Surety of His People while living on Earth doing the Will of God for them Heb 10:7,9

    He did for them perform all the Faith and Love to God and His Neighbor as required by the Law, Like when Jesus said to one who questioned Him here:

    Matt 22:35-40

    35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,

    36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

    37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

    38 This is the first and great commandment.

    39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

    40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.


    He has fully for His Church fulfilled The First and Great Commandment of the Law In Vs 37-38 and the second like unto it in Vs 39, So True Believers claim the Faith of Christ as theirs, not their own faith, but that Faith Christ exercised towards God while He was here living as the Surety Representative of His People, fulfilling all Righteousness !

    Absolutely ! Based on Christ's Suretyship from Everlasting Heb. 7:22; Heb. 13:20 for His Church Eph. 5:25 / Sheep John 10:11, 15, they were made Righteous / Justified by His Faith Rom. 5:19 before they are born in time and given to believe on Him Phil. 1:29.

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