The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?
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beloved57
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If you want to discuss what is in this thread, then get started. Did you read and understand the Op ?
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Other word for atonement is redemption. What makes you think it wasn't for everyone?
beloved57
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Evasion !
beloved57
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The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?
It accomplished the full salvation of all for whom it was for. Jesus said in His expiring moments these words Jn 19:30
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
In other words, something was finished, accomplished, performed. What exactly was it ? It was the saving of His People from their sins as predicted here Matt 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
His death of atonement actually saved His People from their sins! None for whom He died can be lost !
It accomplished the full salvation of all for whom it was for. Jesus said in His expiring moments these words Jn 19:30
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
In other words, something was finished, accomplished, performed. What exactly was it ? It was the saving of His People from their sins as predicted here Matt 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
His death of atonement actually saved His People from their sins! None for whom He died can be lost !
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"Deceived" I believe would be a better way to explain them.
Nanja
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Perfectly stated!
Jesus = "Jehovah is salvation"
His Atonement was Limited, in that it completely satisfied God's Law and Justice for all those whom it was His Father's Will for Him to save John 6:38,40; for everyone of those He tasted death for Heb. 2:9, and not even one of them will be lost Luke 19:10. He became a curse for them, providing full satisfaction to God for their sins by the shedding of His Blood on their behalf Heb. 9:22. So Jesus' Purpose in coming to Earth to Save His People the Father had given Him to Save Mat. 1:21 was Finished!
John 6:39
And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
1 John 3:2
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
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beloved57
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Blessed be the Holy Name of Jesus.
Nanja
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Praise Him! And at the Blessed Name of Jesus, all His Elect Saints shall bow and confess that He is LORD Phil.2:10-11!
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beloved57
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Amen
beloved57
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Evasion!
Epoisses
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You're an unbeliever who rejects that Jesus is the savior of the world. You deny Salvation to countless millions who you deem unworthy. God will judge you for your error.
beloved57
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More evasion and rabbit trail comments !
beloved57
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Christ's death produces life, salvation.
Antichrist religion doesnt believe this nor understand it, that Christ's death produces salvation fruit, the conversion of souls, its how He is Glorified ! Jesus said when close to the time of His death Jn 12:23-24
23 And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified.
24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.
Jesus here is describing how the Son of Man should be Glorified Vs 23. He is the corn of wheat in Vs 24 and He states what happens if it dies, signifying His death !
His death brings forth fruit, the fruit of salvation, the fruit of new life. Its just like when a farmer sows a seed of corn in the ground, what happens ? It brings forth fruit, life. The words bring forth in Vs 24 literally means to produce [to bring into existence; give rise to; cause:]
The New Birth is the result, product of Christ's death, hence believers are said to have been begotten again by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead 1 Pet 1:3
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
The resurrection of Christ displays the fruit of His death, Life ! So those of us who are Truly Born again have Christ's death to Thank for that ! Our New birth is the fruit of His death !
Those false teachers who teach that Christ died for people who never are born again, do Christ's death a disservice, a injury, insult and injustice !
Antichrist religion doesnt believe this nor understand it, that Christ's death produces salvation fruit, the conversion of souls, its how He is Glorified ! Jesus said when close to the time of His death Jn 12:23-24
23 And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified.
24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.
Jesus here is describing how the Son of Man should be Glorified Vs 23. He is the corn of wheat in Vs 24 and He states what happens if it dies, signifying His death !
His death brings forth fruit, the fruit of salvation, the fruit of new life. Its just like when a farmer sows a seed of corn in the ground, what happens ? It brings forth fruit, life. The words bring forth in Vs 24 literally means to produce [to bring into existence; give rise to; cause:]
The New Birth is the result, product of Christ's death, hence believers are said to have been begotten again by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead 1 Pet 1:3
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
The resurrection of Christ displays the fruit of His death, Life ! So those of us who are Truly Born again have Christ's death to Thank for that ! Our New birth is the fruit of His death !
Those false teachers who teach that Christ died for people who never are born again, do Christ's death a disservice, a injury, insult and injustice !
Nanja
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1 John 2:2 KJV -
Nanja
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When Christ died His Chosen Seed was In Him Eph. 1:4, so when He died, they died also with Him.
That Chosen Seed that is In Union with Christ is the only portion of mankind which was crucified with Him Gal. 2:20 and resurrected with Him Col. 2:13, so they shall be born again.
1Pet. 1:23
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Christ Is Glorified in that Particular Seed that He died for Is. 53:10 they shall bear fruit John 12:23-24 because they abide In the Vine John 15:5.
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beloved57
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Amen Sister and that is the seed that shall serve Him Ps 22:30
A seed*shall*serve*him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.
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