The Late Great Urantia Revelation
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freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
evaluations..............
evaluations..............
'Evaluations' are determinations of value. Regarding writings of a religious, philosophic or scientific nature, all things bear investigating. Everything in the UB is open for inspection, just like any other 'book' or 'bible' of like subject matter. Consider 'content' and 'context'.
From the Foreward, by a Divine Counselor -
"We are fully cognizant of the difficulties of our assignment; we recognize the impossibility of fully translating the language of the concepts of divinity and eternity into the symbols of the language of the finite concepts of the mortal mind. But we know that there dwells within the human mind a fragment of God, and that there sojourns with the human soul the Spirit of Truth ; and we further know that these spirit forces conspire to enable material man to grasp the reality of spiritual values and to comprehend the philosophy of universe meanings. But even more certainly we know that these spirits of the Divine Presence are able to assist man in the spiritual appropriation of all truth contributory to the enhancement of the ever-progressing reality of personal religious experience—God-consciousness."
- UB
pj
evaluations..............
'Evaluations' are determinations of value. Regarding writings of a religious, philosophic or scientific nature, all things bear investigating. Everything in the UB is open for inspection, just like any other 'book' or 'bible' of like subject matter. Consider 'content' and 'context'.
From the Foreward, by a Divine Counselor -
"We are fully cognizant of the difficulties of our assignment; we recognize the impossibility of fully translating the language of the concepts of divinity and eternity into the symbols of the language of the finite concepts of the mortal mind. But we know that there dwells within the human mind a fragment of God, and that there sojourns with the human soul the Spirit of Truth ; and we further know that these spirit forces conspire to enable material man to grasp the reality of spiritual values and to comprehend the philosophy of universe meanings. But even more certainly we know that these spirits of the Divine Presence are able to assist man in the spiritual appropriation of all truth contributory to the enhancement of the ever-progressing reality of personal religious experience—God-consciousness."
- UB
pj
Charity
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We are aware that in the beging; Angels raced off from heaven' down to the earth while it is was not; within their calling for service. perhaps they Take themselves a body? but realy, should have waited for their turn in a vessle? the mind needs the soul to fully comprehend an project a message?
where is the end? where we disclose the begining of?
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We are aware that in the beging; Angels raced off from heaven' down to the earth while it is was not; within their calling for service. perhaps they Take themselves a body? but realy, should have waited for their turn in a vessle? the mind needs the soul to fully comprehend an project a message?
where is the end? where we disclose the begining of?
Charity
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Nobble mission, an very much to be observed. in the relms of needing attention.
thank you
Thought Adjuster
Krishnamurti said in a talk:
You may remember the story of how the devil and a friend of his were walking down the street, when they saw ahead of them a man stoop down and pick up something from the ground, look at it, and put it away in his pocket. The friend said to the devil, "What did that man pick up?" "He picked up a piece of Truth," said the devil. "That is a very bad business for you, then," said his friend. "Oh, not at all," the devil replied, "I am going to let him organize it."
Ronald Reagan said:
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help." Ronald Reagan
Be veeerrry wary of thought adjustors. IMO people inwardly drawn to human "being" potential are better off with Simone's approach.
"We can only know one thing about God - that he is what we are not. Our wretchedness alone is an image of this. The more we contemplate it, the more we contemplate him." Simone Weil
Charity
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freelight
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J Krishnamurti was quite an inspiration in my earlier years. The story illustrates the dangers in organization of religion that is detrimental to true spiritual health and freedom. Not sure how this relates to the Urantia Papers, as there is no organized religion or authority structure(Church) that uses the UB as a 'bible', besides individuals and small communities (seasonal confrences/meetings) who are UB readers and enthusiasts.
Being aware of the role and presence of the Thought Adjuster (the presence of eternal/infinite God) in the human mind is nothing to fear, but advantageous to know of, on many levels.
Recognizing the 'evil' or what is 'wrong' in oneself is a part of the process of the soul's journey towards enlightenment, salvation, liberation, call it what you like. Light(knowledge) does expose the darkness(ignorance/egoity) in us, as we discern what is 'real' from what is 'unreal', abiding in the substance of the former.
pj
notes............
J Krishnamurti was quite an inspiration in my earlier years. The story illustrates the dangers in organization of religion that is detrimental to true spiritual health and freedom. Not sure how this relates to the Urantia Papers, as there is no organized religion or authority structure(Church) that uses the UB as a 'bible', besides individuals and small communities (seasonal confrences/meetings) who are UB readers and enthusiasts.
Being aware of the role and presence of the Thought Adjuster (the presence of eternal/infinite God) in the human mind is nothing to fear, but advantageous to know of, on many levels.
Recognizing the 'evil' or what is 'wrong' in oneself is a part of the process of the soul's journey towards enlightenment, salvation, liberation, call it what you like. Light(knowledge) does expose the darkness(ignorance/egoity) in us, as we discern what is 'real' from what is 'unreal', abiding in the substance of the former.
pj
OMEGA
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Its like Lighthead said , we must overcome the evil within our minds that came from
the spirit of Satan in the Garden of Eden.
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"We are starlight we are golden and
We've got to get back to the Garden."
NIBIRU AND PLANET X ARE NEXT IN
THIS EPISODE OF BUCK ROGERS
IN THE 21st CENTURY.
the spirit of Satan in the Garden of Eden.
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"We are starlight we are golden and
We've got to get back to the Garden."
NIBIRU AND PLANET X ARE NEXT IN
THIS EPISODE OF BUCK ROGERS
IN THE 21st CENTURY.
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The beast was already evil, had already sined, then went after Eve. Evil and sin comes from the human heart, we cant blame the devil or anyone else for our own choices.
Caino
Freelight, we don't need thought adjustors. We need the courage to witness ourselves with impartial conscious attention. Then the truth of the human condition becomes obvious opening the means for freedom from it, to leave our attachments to plato's cave and opening to Man's objective conscious potential.
Krishnamurti is also referring to our own inner world. We pick up a piece of the truth and distort it through our own egotism. That is why for me the only legit paths are the ones that begin with Man's nothingness. It doesn't sell but is of great value for those that have the need and courage to look inside for the sake of the truth.
Charity
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The east to west path is very worn,
north to south... a woman, Mother of all Nations, made a beast the fathers of all lier's, who could not have been; without her authority an help divine.
thoughts
was the beast mean't to become a father?
of corse the beast is not going to be tempting the man Adam in this case; he can't sin in the least.
he can't have the children.' underline motive' there is no Justice in the judgement woman are easly tempted. there wasn't a competition. only incentive.
Owned woman chose t give their seed away, or forced, an therefor hardy owned!! taken as such. accused an controled as the orginal sinners.
indulge an carry on with their family argumenst. I think the movies are a great revlation.
north to south... a woman, Mother of all Nations, made a beast the fathers of all lier's, who could not have been; without her authority an help divine.
thoughts
was the beast mean't to become a father?
of corse the beast is not going to be tempting the man Adam in this case; he can't sin in the least.
he can't have the children.' underline motive' there is no Justice in the judgement woman are easly tempted. there wasn't a competition. only incentive.
Owned woman chose t give their seed away, or forced, an therefor hardy owned!! taken as such. accused an controled as the orginal sinners.
indulge an carry on with their family argumenst. I think the movies are a great revlation.
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THE RELIGION OF JESUS
"Some day a reformation in the Christian church may strike deep enough to get back to the unadulterated religious teachings of Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith. You may preach a religion about Jesus, but, perforce, you must live the religion of Jesus. In the enthusiasm of Pentecost, Peter unintentionally inaugurated a new religion, the religion of the risen and glorified Christ. The Apostle Paul later on transformed this new gospel into Christianity, a religion embodying his own theologic views and portraying his own personal experience with the Jesus of the Damascus road. The gospel of the kingdom is founded on the personal religious experience of the Jesus of Galilee; Christianity is founded almost exclusively on the personal religious experience of the Apostle Paul. Almost the whole of the New Testamentis devoted, not to the portrayal of the significant and inspiring religious life of Jesus, but to a discussion of Paul's religious experience and to a portrayal of his personal religious convictions. The only notable exceptions to this statement, aside from certain parts of Matthew, Mark, and Luke, are the Book of Hebrews and the Epistle of James. Even Peter, in his writing, only once reverted to the personal religious life of his Master. The New Testament is a superb Christian document, but it is only meagerly Jesusonian......"
*Peter unintentionally inaugurated a new religion
*Even Peter, in his writing, only once reverted to the personal religious life of his Master.
*the religion of the risen and glorified Christ
[The religion of Jesus taught for the three years prior to his death could not have been centered around his death as a sacrifice, even the apostles did not know where he was going when he allowed himself to be rejected and killed by religion for the purpose of experiencing the final act of all that we are asked to experience, death. The gospel of the kingdom could not have been the gospel about the risen Christ]
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John 13:36
Simon Peter asked him, "Lord, where are you going?" Jesus replied, "Where I am going, you cannot follow now, but you will follow later."
Jesus' death could not have been the central core of his teaching all across the land for Peter does not even know Jesus is leaving.
Caino
http://www.truthbook.com/index.cfm?linkID=1448#U196_2_1
Aimiel
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Obviously, His death could not be revealed to anyone, including His disciples.
Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
Jesus' Blood is the only way that our sins can be cleansed.
For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
Jesus' Blood is the only way that our sins can be cleansed.
For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
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