The Late Great Urantia Revelation

[Caino]

Repentance and obedience is all that is necessary now but that doesn't mean a blood sacrifice was unnecessary in order to achieve that reality.

The point is a person could offer a sacrifice without being sincere or be sincere without the accompanying sacrifice.

Jesus taught of a spiritual rebirth predicated on sincere faith, receiving forgiveness from a God who has always been the same. God did not suddenly become forgiving because an innocent man was put to death. Jesus excoriated those who would reject him and seek his destruction. On the cross he asked the Father to forgive those who were killing him.

 

[staind.raindrop]

The point is a person could offer a sacrifice without being sincere or be sincere without the accompanying sacrifice.

Jesus taught of a spiritual rebirth predicated on sincere faith, receiving forgiveness from a God who has always been the same. God did not suddenly become forgiving because an innocent man was put to death. Jesus excoriated those who would reject him and seek his destruction. On the cross he asked the Father to forgive those who were killing him.

They weren't sacrificing Him as the atonement for sin knowingly, so he wasn't asking God to forgive them for that. His atonement covers everyone who achieved righteousness by faith and that includes the ones who lived and died before Him.

 

[freelight]

Repentance and obedience is all that is necessary now but that doesn't mean a blood sacrifice was unnecessary in order to achieve that reality.

You'd have to prove a blood-atonement is "necessary" in any case.





pj

 

[Aimiel]

The point is a person could offer a sacrifice without being sincere or be sincere without the accompanying sacrifice.

Jesus taught of a spiritual rebirth predicated on sincere faith, receiving forgiveness from a God who has always been the same. God did not suddenly become forgiving because an innocent man was put to death. Jesus excoriated those who would reject him and seek his destruction. On the cross he asked the Father to forgive those who were killing him.

That in no way discounts His saying that His Blood would remit the sins of many.

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[Aimiel]

You'd have to prove a blood-atonement is "necessary" in any case.





pj

It is obvious... just as the demonic doctrines of UB are obvious hogwash.

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[Grosnick Marowbe]

The point is a person could offer a sacrifice without being sincere or be sincere without the accompanying sacrifice.

Jesus taught of a spiritual rebirth predicated on sincere faith, receiving forgiveness from a God who has always been the same. God did not suddenly become forgiving because an innocent man was put to death. Jesus excoriated those who would reject him and seek his destruction. On the cross he asked the Father to forgive those who were killing him.

You trying to preach about Christianity, is equivalent to an uneducated homeless guy trying to teach a brain surgeon how to remove a tumor from the center of a patients brain!

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

It is obvious... just as the demonic doctrines of UB are obvious hogwash.

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Yep!

 

[Caino]

That in no way discounts His saying that His Blood would remit the sins of many.

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Human sacrifice and animal sacrifice were not a part of the good news. That came later from the Pagans.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

You 'urantia hoaxers' are dangerous because, you work hand in hand with Satan to talk naive people into believing that Christ's death on the cross was unnecessary, and brutal! You would say, "Surely a loving God wouldn't
ask for innocent blood to be spilled!" Sounds a little bit like the snake in
the garden, doesn't it?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Human sacrifice and animal sacrifice were not a part of the good news. That came later from the Pagans.

And, your false teaching came from the devil himself!

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Hebrews 9:22 states; "And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission."

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Without faith in the shed blood of Christ for the sins of the world, there is NO salvation, mercy, and eternal life!
Satan would be happy if people wouldn't place their faith in Christ's shed blood, and resurrection! Urantia followers
are helping the 'cause!'

 

[Caino]

Hebrews 9:22 states; "And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission."

That's Hebrews not Jesus, they can't even determine who wrote it.

 

[Caino]

Without faith in the shed blood of Christ for the sins of the world, there is NO salvation, mercy, and eternal life!
Satan would be happy if people wouldn't place their faith in Christ's shed blood, and resurrection! Urantia followers
are helping the 'cause!'

There is only one God, Satan never was a God, he never had the power of a God. You believe the lie.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

There is only one God, Satan never was a God, he never had the power of a God. You believe the lie.

Nobody said Satan had the power of God! You're letting your
imagination get the best of you! Sort of like, what the writer's
of the urantia papers did!

 

[Caino]

And, your false teaching came from the devil himself!

You have a lot of faith in the imaginary Satan God.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

That's Hebrews not Jesus, they can't even determine who wrote it.

I didn't say that, Jesus said that! Again, you're allowing your imagination
to rule over your better judgment!

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

You have a lot of faith in the imaginary Satan God.

Satan isn't a god!

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Your arguments are getting sillier!

 

[Caino]

You trying to preach about Christianity, is equivalent to an uneducated homeless guy trying to teach a brain surgeon how to remove a tumor from the center of a patients brain!

Christianity is not the original gospel, it's a confused Pagan compromise.