Liberals win: America to become Communist/Socialist

Arthur Brain

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Gary K

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Millennials and their children are more likely to vote for communists and socialists and prefer them over capitalism's 'evils.'

https://dailycaller.com/2017/11/02/...consider-joseph-stalin-and-kim-jong-un-heroes




https://www.redstate.com/brandon_mo...nials-say-will-vote-socialist-according-poll/

Congratulations?

I'll make two comments.
  1. These people aren't "liberals". They are marxists, plain and simple. And there is nothing "liberal" about marxism.
  2. This war isn't over. The vote for impeachment was strictly Democrat, and that is something historic. All presidential impeachments in US history have been bipartisan up until this one. So even the so-called "victory" is a loss for the Democrats. You add to that there is zero legal evidence for this, and that it has been conducted in secret up to this point, the chances of Trump being convicted are between slim and none. This is a show trial to gin up support in their base and to try to win in 2020. What I think they will find however is that movements like #WalkAway will grow exponentially and they will lose in a land slide as they are exposing more and more of their dirty underbelly with their increasing lawlessness. The mockingbird media won't tell you this but that Democrat vote to impeach actually increased Trump support around the nation for in spite of propaganda wing of the Democrat party, the media, any decent people are disgusted and angered by their behavior.
 

Gary K

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Um, these are hardly legitimate sources Lon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Caller

They are far more reliable and accurate sources of information than ABC, NBC, CBS, BBC, MSNBC, CNBC, NY Times, USA Today, and the rest of the sold out, absolutely corrupt, corporate media that the CIA admitted more than 20 years ago that they had been using for as propaganda outlets for many years. You want to trust that? That's your privilege. It's a stupid choice though to trust anyone who has completely sold out.
 

ok doser

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They are far more reliable and accurate sources of information than ABC, NBC, CBS, BBC, MSNBC, CNBC, NY Times, USA Today, and the rest of the sold out, absolutely corrupt, corporate media that the CIA admitted more than 20 years ago that they had been using for as propaganda outlets for many years. You want to trust that? That's your privilege. It's a stupid choice though to trust anyone who has completely sold out.

Best to just ignore the troll
 

Gary K

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As further evidence that this war isn't over, consider what Trump got the Democrats to do inside a space of 24 hours.


  1. Trump got the Democrats to condemn an intelligent, brave, selfless dog thus alienating the dog lovers in this country.
  2. Trump got the Democrats to interrupt a baseball game.
  3. Trump got the Democrats to openly support terrorism and terrorists.

That's going to open some eyes. When people realize the depths to which the Democrats will sink in their fear of Trump their own voters will begin to despise them. Every day they expose more and more of their totalitarian nature, and their love of doublespeak. It's gotten to the point the Democrats are painting themselves with George Orwell's paintbrush as denizens of his book 1984.
 

The Horn

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Anyone who thinks the Democrats and the independent Bernie Sanders are "communists " has been brainwashed by right-wing extremist propaganda . In fact, there is nothing even remotely communist about the policies of the democratic party or Sanders .
If they were actual communists , they would advocate : 1. Abolishing all private corporations and small businesses and nationalize all of them 2. Advocate abolishing our stock market .
3. putting agriculture , manufacturing , stores and supermarkets etc under government control .
4. Have our government control production of all goods, services etc with no private enterprise allowed . Everything we take for granted in the US - availability of food, goods, clothing , etc would be under strict government control .
5. There would be no free press and all dissidents would be either put in prison or executed or both . 6. All organized religious, whether Christianity, Islam , Judaism, etc would be prohibited and all churches, mosques, synagogues and temples would be closed down permanently . Those who practiced any religion in the open would be either imprisoned, executed or both .
7. The government would control the media a- newspapers, magazines , the internet etc .
8. There would be strict government censorship of all books, magazines, television the internet , films etc . And so on .
Furthermore,e this would not even be possible if the Democrats actually wanted to set up a strict communist government in the US !
None of the Democrats advocates anything even remotely similar to this . This economic system failed miserably in Russia, China and elsewhere , because it is a lousy way to run a government .
All the Democrats want to do is to overhaul our current system so that life will be affordable for people, people will not have to struggle desperately to earn a living, people won't lose their homes if they lose their jobs , nobody will die because health care is too expensive , (40,000 die every year because of this in America ). And nobody will go bankrupt in order to get medical care.
So many do today here, people who are not even poor .
The Democrats want to make college AFFORDABLE . It's just to expensive for people who are not rich or who don't have rich parents . And this country really needs well educated people to be doctors, scientists , inventors , economists etc in order to remain competitive int he global economy . We are shooting ourselves in the foot by allowing college to be too expensive for most people .
The Democrats don't want to take all the money away from rich people , and they are not opposed to wealth per se . They are opposed to the corporate greed which has ruined the US economy in the east 40 years or so .
The Democrats realize that there MUST be some government supervision over big business,s because without this, the corporate fat cats would e free to exploit their employees and the public with impunity .
And so on. Don't believe the Fox News propaganda and the propaganda of Breitbart and other right-wing extremist internet rags ! If you are not rich and you voted for Trump, you voted against you own interests !
 
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Arthur Brain

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They are far more reliable and accurate sources of information than ABC, NBC, CBS, BBC, MSNBC, CNBC, NY Times, USA Today, and the rest of the sold out, absolutely corrupt, corporate media that the CIA admitted more than 20 years ago that they had been using for as propaganda outlets for many years. You want to trust that? That's your privilege. It's a stupid choice though to trust anyone who has completely sold out.

No they aren't. The Daily Caller is notorious for publishing "fake news". Frankly, someone who thinks that "Infowars" is a legitimate source of journalism lacks credibility AFAIC anyway.

:plain:
 

Arthur Brain

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It's been on the news. Do some research. Every couple of years they do these polls. In 2017 it was 58%. This year the number is at 70%
There are several communists in government so it didn't seem far fetched to me.

Which "news" would that be? What you've linked to so far doesn't count by any stretch Lon.
 

The Barbarian

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When communism fell apart in the 80s, the grief and denial on the far right exceeded that on the far left. Reagan even suggested that it was some kind of elaborate ploy to make us drop our guard.

In a world where even the communists are not communists, the word has lost it's usefulness as a boogeyman.

And in a nation where the far right has presented Trump as an example of capitalism, it's hardly surprising that the young want nothing to do with it.
 

jgarden

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The decline of the middle class, the concentration of wealth in fewer hands and the failure of governments to provide affordable healthcare and higher education has alienated successive generations of Americans who no longer have unquestioning faith in the current economic system as representing their best interests and aspirations!

Isolated instances of those achieving "The American Dream" are no longer enough to placate young millennials who no longer harbour a blind allegiance to the capitalist economic model!

Capitalism will now be forced to compete in the world marketplace of ideas and ideologies for the hearts and minds of the younger generations if it expects to retain its preferred position in America!
 

The Barbarian

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Capitalism has one advantage over everything else; it's the way people behave economically, when allowed to do so. Christianity has one advantage over other faiths; it is the faith that God set for us.

Donald Trump is a capitalist in the same sense that Jerry Falwell Jr. is a Christian. He claims to be, but shows little evidence of it.

If this new generation coming into adulthood turn from those values, it will be because those men have promoted their versions of them.
 

ok doser

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https://www.marketwatch.com/story/millennials-communism-sounds-pretty-chill-2017-11-01

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