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  • Quip's sole purpose here is to heap scorn and disdain on Christians, even if he has to lie and engage dishonestly to do so.

    He's a troll, nothing more

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    • Originally posted by quip View Post
      Such a business man does not accumulate his riches in a vacuum. As a related saying goes..."it takes a village..."
      His riches, indeed. Not your riches. Not your village's riches.

      It takes a village--a village of easily-conditioned idiots--for thieving demagogues to have the power to succeed in the kinds of theft exploits advocated by envious parrots like yourself.

      Originally posted by quip View Post
      Said business mogul has a duty to the society which labors, protects, consumes and maintains his golden pathways to the bank.
      No wealth owner has any duty to folks like yourself, who're avowedly willing (and ever clamoring and looking for opportunities) to steal what he/she owns. Your avowed willingness to steal wealth from its owners precludes the owners of wealth from having any duty, whatsoever, to share with you any of the wealth they own.
      All my ancestors are human.
      PS: All your ancestors are human.
      PPS: To all you cats, dogs, monkeys, and other assorted house pets whose masters are outsourcing the task of TOL post-writing to you (we know who you are )– you may disregard the PS.

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      • Originally posted by ffreeloader View Post
        Your words and your actions tell different stories.
        Well, no. I've been consistent where it comes to my cynicism where it comes to politics from any side of the spectrum. You, on the other hand, just seem to want to label anyone who has a bad word to say about Trump as a "Marxist" or some garbage.
        Well this is fun isn't it?

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        • Originally posted by drbrumley View Post
          My apologies Quip....I guess it was....

          You see Quip, I have read the book. You are making the same old tired arguments she did in her book "It takes a Village"
          I never claimed that reasoned, equitable arguments are cutting edge. Strange that you deem them as such.
          Perhaps it'll jar you into critically analyzing your age-old refrain of avarice and greed. Or at least admiring it from others...as a virtue.

          Nothing new is coming from you.
          Indeed!
          Select passages from the Bible will confirm that for you.

          Are you envious of successful people? Just a question.
          Wrong question. Envy is the wrong emotion. I don't begrudge the successful, rather I have a disdain for blatant greed...be it sole-minded profiteering or small-minded, servile groveling at its methods. Concerning the latter...you (and others here) especially come to mind.



          Why do you feel entitled to other people's stuff Quip?
          I don't.


          Any other questions?

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          • Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
            Well, no. I've been consistent where it comes to my cynicism where it comes to politics from any side of the spectrum. You, on the other hand, just seem to want to label anyone who has a bad word to say about Trump as a "Marxist" or some garbage.
            Show me your posts criticizing anyone on the left. I've never read a single post of yours that does that.

            Your condemnation of me is pretty funny because I'd have to have been calling myself a ""Marxist" or some garbage" as I have criticized some of Trump's moves. I have pointed out where he has used the same deceitful algorithms for reporting economic numbers that Obama and the Democrats used. I have also spoken to how fragile our national economy is in reality when Trump has been saying how wonderful it is. A lot of the economic information I've pointed to has demonstrated the reality rather than the hype Trump uses, including the PCR interview that you called garbage because PCR has a stance on WWII and the Nazis that you don't like. You ignored all that truth because of your bias and prejudice. Your statement here proves you didn't even listen to the interview. You just condemned it out of hand. And then because you have done that with all the videos on economic subjects I've posted you say I never criticize Trump. Your bias and prejudice lie fully exposed.

            The really ironic part of your condemnation of PCR is that the BBC is one of the largest antisemitic organizations on planet earth. Their biased and deceitful treatment of Israel and the BBC's blatant lying support of terrorists attacking Israel is incredible. If the Irish organizations like Sinn Fein had committed anywhere near the amount of terrorist acts against England that the Palestinian terrorists have against Israel you Brits would have wiped the entire nation of Ireland off the map. And I don't say that lightly but come from the point of view of the long history of Britain's criminal abuse of the Irish. Maybe you ought to read Leon Uris's Trinity series as his deeply researched Trinity series on the "Irish problem" is a great documentation of just how prejudiced you Brits really are.
            “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.”
            ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

            “One and God make a majority.”
            ― Frederick Douglass

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            • Originally posted by ffreeloader View Post
              Show me your posts criticizing anyone on the left. I've never read a single post of yours that does that.
              What part of "I'm cynical of politics from any side of the aisle" is tripping you up? In the UK, I'm no fan of the conservative party, at all. Then again I'm no fan of the labour party either as whoever's in power it all reduces down to the same thing. Election pledges that aren't kept, any economic downturn blamed on previous administration, long winded non answers to constituent concerns blah blah blah. I was no fan of Hilary Clinton in any shape of form and I've stated on this forum that America was short changed in the choice of candidates. Would I have preferred if Clinton had won instead of Trump? Yes but that's not saying much as a bus stop would make a better president than the current occupant of the WH...

              Your condemnation of me is pretty funny because I'd have to have been calling myself a ""Marxist" or some garbage" as I have criticized some of Trump's moves. I have pointed out where he has used the same deceitful algorithms for reporting economic numbers that Obama and the Democrats used. I have also spoken to how fragile our national economy is in reality when Trump has been saying how wonderful it is. A lot of the economic information I've pointed to has demonstrated the reality rather than the hype Trump uses, including the PCR interview that you called garbage because PCR has a stance on WWII and the Nazis that you don't like. You ignored all that truth because of your bias and prejudice. Your statement here proves you didn't even listen to the interview. You just condemned it out of hand. And then because you have done that with all the videos on economic subjects I've posted you say I never criticize Trump. Your bias and prejudice lie fully exposed.

              The really ironic part of your condemnation of PCR is that the BBC is one of the largest antisemitic organizations on planet earth. Their biased and deceitful treatment of Israel and the BBC's blatant lying support of terrorists attacking Israel is incredible. If the Irish organizations like Sinn Fein had committed anywhere near the amount of terrorist acts against England that the Palestinian terrorists have against Israel you Brits would have wiped the entire nation of Ireland off the map. And I don't say that lightly but come from the point of view of the long history of Britain's criminal abuse of the Irish. Maybe you ought to read Leon Uris's Trinity series as his deeply researched Trinity series on the "Irish problem" is a great documentation of just how prejudiced you Brits really are.
              Well, for a start, nobody condemned you, so it's not really that funny and you've been quick to label people like me a "socialist" and presume to know what I believe where it comes to politics with no foundation for it. If you're not above criticising Trump then good, so you should because he's not going tell the truth about economic concerns as that would get in the way of his narcissistic bloviating. I'm already aware of how the economy is fragile and I'm not in the habit of watching political YT videos on here as it is and certainly not long ones by holocaust deniers. As to the rest, Britain doesn't have a blameless history by any stretch and nor is the media completely unbiased, particularly the tabloid press. Your over the top, generalized notions or duly noted and filed accordingly.
              Well this is fun isn't it?

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              • Originally posted by quip View Post
                I don't.


                Any other questions?
                Your posts says otherwise....no more questions….
                The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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                • Originally posted by drbrumley View Post
                  Why do you feel entitled to other people's stuff Quip?
                  Originally posted by quip View Post
                  I don't.

                  liar

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                  • Originally posted by quip View Post
                    speaking of which: Jesus's words didn't work in Seattle so....that's good enough for you.

                    What a pretentious load....

                    But you're correct in one regard, we've had this discussion before and you're still only a self-appointed Christian... in name only.
                    You aren't one, so why would I take advice from you concerning this? Read:
                    1 Corinthians 2:10 these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit.
                    The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11 For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12 What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. 14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. 15 The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments, 16 for,
                    “Who has known the mind of the Lord
                    so as to instruct him?”


                    But we have the mind of Christ.

                    You:

                    1) are 'a stranger and afraid in a world" you never made
                    2) don't believe let alone grasp the above scriptures. You cannnot because you don't believe it nor want to.

                    So let's revisit: I'd have to think like you (not a Christian, but afraid of them and not liking the world of them by your own sig admission). You, not-a-Christian, nor liking them and with a LOT of prejudism against them, are trying to tell me what one is and does? A guy who uses his money on vices rather than giving sacrificially like I ALREADY do? Read: Matthew 21:28-32

                    Which brother are you? Which one am I?

                    Think long and hard and seriously before you cast the stone. James 1:22

                    You really need a reality check and always have. I cannot pull punches when you MUST face reality that you've ran from. You NEED a reality check. This does NOT eradicate my Christianity, it underscores it. YOU've chosen sides and against Christians and God, not me. Try not to act out because of the conflict then with this 'in name only' garbage. You are wrong. You don't GET to make that valuation being on the outside looking in with your nose on the window. John 15:18
                    My New Years Resolution: 1 Peter 3:15
                    Omniscient without man's qualification. John 1:3 "Nothing"
                    Colossians 1:17 "Nothing" John 15:5 "Nothing"
                    Mighty, ALL mighty (omnipotent). Revelation 1:8
                    No possible limitation Isaiah 40:25 Joshua 24:15
                    Infinite (Omnipresent) Psalm 145:3 Hebrews 4:13

                    ? Yep

                    Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think... Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21

                    ... when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. Titus 3:10 Ephesians 4:29-32; 5:11

                    Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

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                    • Love his heart. The one's who don't are the first to cast stones in their [un]righteous indignation. It makes no sense.
                      My New Years Resolution: 1 Peter 3:15
                      Omniscient without man's qualification. John 1:3 "Nothing"
                      Colossians 1:17 "Nothing" John 15:5 "Nothing"
                      Mighty, ALL mighty (omnipotent). Revelation 1:8
                      No possible limitation Isaiah 40:25 Joshua 24:15
                      Infinite (Omnipresent) Psalm 145:3 Hebrews 4:13

                      ? Yep

                      Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think... Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21

                      ... when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. Titus 3:10 Ephesians 4:29-32; 5:11

                      Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

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                      • Originally posted by quip View Post
                        Oh dear ....Thievery!

                        "Tell them to use their money to do good. They should be rich in good works and generous to those in need, always being ready to share with others." Timothy 6:18
                        Forced? To whoever somebody else believes it should be bestowed?

                        There are people living in tents at the park downtown. The foodbank where I've worked and help, travel there and give them hot meals, clothes, and whatever other help they can afford. The majority of these travel to the street corners with cardboard signs, many say they are 'hungry' when I just got through feeding them.

                        Point: There are true needs, and feigned needs. There are people who think that saying 'no' even just once isn't loving.

                        Here, we (them/me) greatly disagree. They don't think I'm loving because they are spoiled-brats, only-children given whatever they want without learning the value of the sacrifice. For them? True, their parents didn't have to sacrifice because they only had one. For me? Learn to wait my turn.

                        This in a nutshell is the problem and the problem of which is the more loving. I give to children more often because they haven't got to the point of crying wolf 20 times a day where the line between need and self-interested want is blurred. Yes, yes in fact, these would have money to rent a house (and some of them do) vs. buying vices. I've watched them often walk down the street and buy drugs or go into a store and buy alcohol.

                        I'm all for programs to get them off the street and do volunteer but I will not give my $ to those who don't want 'my kind of help.' Because I live in a democracy, I have 'some' freedom to use $ this way. When the State no longer serves capital interests, I'd lose that and my $ would go to whomever anybody else thinks is entitled, sadly, whether they are genuinely entitled. We all know there are people who rob and abuse the welfare system and who do not 'share' their unearned abundance after winning the proverbial lottery.

                        You sound like you've been poor. I've been. I never thought the next door neighbors owed me a living. Rather, I was always thankful if they gave it freely and of a good heart. I don't want $ grudgingly given. It causes problem[s], and may not even solve the one.

                        A reality check on what IS accomplished verse the 'ideal' is a good use of this thread.
                        My New Years Resolution: 1 Peter 3:15
                        Omniscient without man's qualification. John 1:3 "Nothing"
                        Colossians 1:17 "Nothing" John 15:5 "Nothing"
                        Mighty, ALL mighty (omnipotent). Revelation 1:8
                        No possible limitation Isaiah 40:25 Joshua 24:15
                        Infinite (Omnipresent) Psalm 145:3 Hebrews 4:13

                        ? Yep

                        Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think... Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21

                        ... when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. Titus 3:10 Ephesians 4:29-32; 5:11

                        Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

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                        • Originally posted by quip View Post
                          ."Tell them to use their money to do good. They should be rich in good works and generous to those in need, always being ready to share with others." Timothy 6:18

                          "generous to those in need"

                          "ready to share with others"


                          silly quip thinks that means the government

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                          • Originally posted by drbrumley View Post
                            Your posts says otherwise.
                            Well, given your self-serving approach to the issue it only makes sense that you would assume the same with mine.

                            Though, I'm not basing this on my needs, I garner little on the redistribution of wealth (at least directly) I'm arguing to the need of the under/unrepresented, to egalitarianism. You?...to self-interest and the proliferation of greed.

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                            • Originally posted by ok doser View Post
                              "generous to those in need"

                              "ready to share with others"


                              silly quip thinks that means the government
                              It doesn't have to be.

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                              • Originally posted by Lon View Post
                                Forced? To whoever somebody else believes it should be bestowed?

                                There are people living in tents at the park downtown. The foodbank where I've worked and help, travel there and give them hot meals, clothes, and whatever other help they can afford. The majority of these travel to the street corners with cardboard signs, many say they are 'hungry' when I just got through feeding them.

                                Point: There are true needs, and feigned needs. There are people who think that saying 'no' even just once isn't loving.
                                So? Who are you to judge who's worthy or not; or in what manner your efforts may be appreciated or respected ...if at all? All your efforts may only help but one...unseen and that is a task well done.. It's only your ego which desires accolades. Get over yourself.

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