The Good that Child Protective Services Does

jgarden

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I've seen the horror stories from the thread ffreeloader started and a couple in this thread that he and drbrumley posted.

Please back up those allegations with something other than the equivalent to an Alex Jones Infowars/Lew Rockwell-government hating website, like official documentation (police records, etc.) from the respective State that these alleged CPS atrocities occurred in.
Case workers start off with good intensions but they are quickly discouraged from taking cases before the courts, because legal costs quickly erode their already limited funding!

CPS are largely "token" agencies, they possess lofty mission statements concerning the protection of children at risk, but these organizations so underfunded and their staff overworked that its humanly impossible to accomplish their mandate!

Ironically, the same politicians who chronically underfund these agencies and quick to criticize their shortcomings are also the first ones who ensure, when their own political careers are at risk, that their re-election campaigns are always well financed!
 
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aCultureWarrior

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Case workers start off with good intensions but they are quickly discouraged from taking cases before the courts, because legal costs quickly erode their already limited funding!

When an abused child is taken away from his or her abusive parent(s) and court hearings are scheduled to decide if the child would be better off elsewhere, what makes you think that the cost of those hearings come out of CPS funds?

CPS are largely "token" agencies, they possess lofty mission statements concerning the protection of children at risk, but these organizations so underfunded and their staff overworked that its humanly impossible to accomplish their mandate!

Ironically, the same politicians who chronically underfund these agencies and quick to criticize their shortcomings are also the first ones who ensure, when their own political careers are at risk, that their re-election campaigns are always well financed!

Due to the libertarian mentality of our society, CPS agents are definitely overworked, but do you have any documentation to show that they lack funds to do their job adequately?
 

aCultureWarrior

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User Name asks aCW directly:

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What is the CPS position on allowing LGBTQ couples to adopt?

aCW runs and hides from User Name's scary direct question


awwww. :(

What is the CPS position of homosexuals adopting?

When you say CPS, which State are you talking about, as each State has their own child protective services?

When you ask what is their position, are you talking about the position of each CPS agent or some union that has opinions on various subjects?

While without a doubt CPS investigators run across many abused children that live in homosexual run households, like the case with Duke University Professor Frank Lombard, who pimped out his adopted 5 year old black 'son' to other homosexuals over the internet, but due to liberal/libertarian activism, homosexuals adopting children is legal and like all law enforcement agencies, CPS has to abide by the law.

I hope that answered your question.
 

aCultureWarrior

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If the child is taken away from the parents/guardians and placed in a foster home with strangers before any court hearing and any charges being filed, then it was done without any due process.

If law enforcement/CPS officials have probable cause to believe that the child's life is endangered, they have every right.

From the South Carolina code of laws:

(1) the officer has probable cause to believe that by reason of abuse or neglect the child's life, health, or physical safety is in substantial and imminent danger if the child is not taken into emergency protective custody, and there is not time to apply for a court order pursuant to Section 63-7-1660.
https://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t63c007.php
 

aCultureWarrior

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Are you playing dumb about the need for due process here?

Take it up with the State Legislators of every US State who authorize the removal of a child from an abusive home as long as probable cause has been established which shows that the child was in imminent danger. In probable cause cases, the Due Process Clause (a court hearing) comes in after the child has been placed in a safe environment.
 

aCultureWarrior

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... and so, "The Good That Child Protective Services Does" includes removing children from homosexuals?

Unfortunately in this day and age, those who engage in that "infamous crime against nature" (homosexuality) are afforded the same rights as God-fearing people: the adoption of children included.

When it is reported to CPS that a child is being abused, and it happens to be in a household where homosexuals live, CPS investigates those cases too. If the evidence warrants removal of the child from the household, the child is placed elsewhere depending on the findings of the court.
 

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Take it up with the State Legislators of every US State who authorize the removal of a child from an abusive home as long as probable cause has been established which shows that the child was in imminent danger. In probable cause cases, the Due Process Clause (a court hearing) comes in after the child has been placed in a safe environment.
In other words, there is no due process for taking children for any and all excuses that a CPS employee can invent.
 

aCultureWarrior

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In other words, there is no due process for taking children for any and all excuses that a CPS employee can invent.

If there were no court hearings on the case after the abused child has been placed in temporary protective custody, you would be correct in saying that there is no due process, but there is.

Regarding CPS investigators "inventing" evidence:

I would ask you to provide evidence from something other than a libertarian website, but that request hasn't produced anything throughout this thread, so I don't expect it to happen now.
 

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Here is a possible hypothesis, or what the historians would call a thesis: Since the Democratic Party, in its 2016-2019 state, tends to be dominant in states of the East Coast and in the states of the West Coast, plus a few states closer to the Heartland, like Illinois, the Socialist, Marxist, Communist or Leftist political ideology would be strongest among Social Workers in those East and West Coast Blue States. An allied hypothesis would postulate that the Leftist ideology among Social Workers is stronger in large urban areas, no matter if the state is Blue or Red.

Now, bring in the data on Child Protective Services being used in Child Sex Trafficking and see where this is greater, in large urban centers and in states of the East and West Coast? https://healthimpactnews.com/2015/child-sex-trafficking-through-child-protection-services-ex

But this problem is not limited to states of the West and East Coast. https://medicalkidnap.com/2017/02/2...n-services-pipeline-to-child-sex-trafficking/

"Texas Child “Protection” Services: Pipeline to Child Sex Trafficking"

"The Crime of Being Poor: The State Takes Away Your Children"

"The Texas Tribune also reports:

Low-paid, overworked child welfare workers quit their jobs at alarming rates; one-third of investigative caseworkers leave each year.

This is a typical excuse given by the mainstream media as to why children in the system are being abused – not enough funding for social workers.

However, CPS whistleblowers tell us a different story. They talk about broad corruption within the agencies, and how good social workers never last, as they learn quickly it is not about helping the children, but protecting the agency and bringing in federal funding to support the system."

"It is a system where, as U.S. District Judge Janis Jack wrote in a 2015 legal opinion,

“rape, abuse, psychotropic medication and instability are the norm” and children often leave more damaged than when they arrive.

It is also a system from which many children enter the world of selling sex. Eighty-six percent of runaway children in the United States suspected of being forced into sex work came from the child welfare system, according to a 2016 analysis of cases reported to the National Center on Missing and Exploited Children. Of the 79,000 child sex trafficking victims estimated to be in the state, the vast majority were in foster care or had previous contact with Child Protective Services, according to a recent University of Texas study.

“It’s very easy for a trafficker to prey on those specific kids,” said Dixie Hairston, who leads anti-sex-trafficking efforts in North Texas for the nonprofit advocacy group Children At Risk. “Something is going wrong. These kids are not being kept safe.”
 

genuineoriginal

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If there were no court hearings on the case after the abused child has been placed in temporary protective custody, you would be correct in saying that there is no due process
Many children who are not in any danger and are not being abused are being taken by CPS, put into foster homes, and sexually abused by the foster parents and/or the other children in the foster home.
 

genuineoriginal

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I would ask you to provide evidence from something other than a libertarian website, but that request hasn't produced anything throughout this thread, so I don't expect it to happen now.
I would like the extreme leftist mainstream media to publish the truth, but I don't expect that to happen either.
 
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