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  • #31
    Originally posted by Idolater View Post
    It matters.

    It matters a lot.

    Government is influenced by We the People in more ways than just in the polls, from our wallets, in the Press, etc. Government is influenced when We the People are armed as well as our own national military's troops. That absolutely matters a lot, when our government takes this into consideration, because, and this is my point---it matters when We the People are not thusly armed. That's when all the 666 stuff happened, and that's when it still happens. Governments make wrong choices when the lethality of their people is null. They make better choices when we are armed to the hilt. So writ large wrt human history, "gun control" (iow any government violation of the right to bear arms) is devastating wrt murders, murderers, and murder victims, when calmly and collectedly viewed in direct comparison with what the Second Amendment plainly instructs the US government to do: The US government is instructed to do nothing, wrt 'gun control' of any kind. Strip down everything but the simple sentence formed from just the operative words---the, right, shall, not be infringed. = no gun control!

    We sit here and we ponder annual murder rates. If we're honest. Otherwise we might ponder suicides by gun as evidence that gun control is a good idea (to say nothing of its obvious invalidity wrt the Constitution).

    Gun control kills, because its direct opposite the right to bear arms, prevents the worst killings ever seen. It's the most important right that there is, and the US is the last best chance that humanity has of protecting this most important facet of the very right to life.
    Guns are weapons and should not be in the wrong hands. Our rights as Citizens are not infringed by this. What we use guns for matters. That aside, some people hunt game with guns. I believe different guns are used for different things, like hunting or defending your homeland against the attack of foreigners seeking to oppress you with their weapons and gun involved shows of power. In other words, maybe the Red Coats or the English wouldn't fire at us. I don't think they were protecting other Red Coats, but the reason I say this is because I don't know that we will not use firepower abroad, while others may feel they are protecting their own land.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Jacob View Post
      Guns are weapons and should not be in the wrong hands.
      And who decides which hands are not worthy?
      Where is the evidence for a global flood?
      E≈mc2
      "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

      "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
      -Bob B.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Stripe View Post
        And who decides which hands are not worthy?
        Not worthy? If guns could potentially go to anyone, for what purpose? Because worthy hands is different than not worthy, and who would want to make someone feel that their hands or they are not worthy? But if they are for killing people then who wants that responsibility when a shot fired could result in a murder charge but worse a dead person.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Stripe View Post
          It's impressive how long your posts are, despite all the acronyms.
          Agreed.
          "Those who believe in Christ" are all the Christians, Catholic or not.

          @Nee_Nihilo

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Jacob View Post
            Guns are weapons and should not be in the wrong hands.
            The wrong hands are the bad guys. If he's a bad guy, then you don't want him to have a gun, so you lock him up and keep him locked up until he's a good guy. If he never changes to a good guy, he's imprisoned for life.

            And if he's a good guy, why wouldn't you want the good guy to have guns? You always want the good guys to have guns, haven't you seen a single war movie?

            Anybody who's not in prison should be assumed to be a good guy. Give him a gun. And if we're wrong, then lock him up and keep him locked up. Infringing the right to bear arms, iow, is only Constitutional imo, when done to prison inmates.
            Originally posted by Jacob View Post
            Our rights as Citizens are not infringed by this. What we use guns for matters. That aside, some people hunt game with guns. I believe different guns are used for different things, like hunting or defending your homeland against the attack of foreigners seeking to oppress you with their weapons and gun involved shows of power. In other words, maybe the Red Coats or the English wouldn't fire at us. I don't think they were protecting other Red Coats, but the reason I say this is because I don't know that we will not use firepower abroad, while others may feel they are protecting their own land.
            The word "arms" in the Constitution refers first and foremost to exactly the weaponry that every British redcoat carried back then. Everybody is authorized, as a human being, to carry what is simply called today "standard issue" military, just like in the 1700s.

            It's pretty simple.
            "Those who believe in Christ" are all the Christians, Catholic or not.

            @Nee_Nihilo

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Idolater View Post
              The wrong hands are the bad guys. If he's a bad guy, then you don't want him to have a gun, so you lock him up and keep him locked up until he's a good guy. If he never changes to a good guy, he's imprisoned for life.

              And if he's a good guy, why wouldn't you want the good guy to have guns? You always want the good guys to have guns, haven't you seen a single war movie?

              Anybody who's not in prison should be assumed to be a good guy. Give him a gun. And if we're wrong, then lock him up and keep him locked up. Infringing the right to bear arms, iow, is only Constitutional imo, when done to prison inmates.
              The word "arms" in the Constitution refers first and foremost to exactly the weaponry that every British redcoat carried back then. Everybody is authorized, as a human being, to carry what is simply called today "standard issue" military, just like in the 1700s.

              It's pretty simple.
              There is a way in which the right to bear arms is not about gun control.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Jacob View Post
                Not worthy? If guns could potentially go to anyone, for what purpose? Because worthy hands is different than not worthy, and who would want to make someone feel that their hands or they are not worthy? But if they are for killing people then who wants that responsibility when a shot fired could result in a murder charge but worse a dead person.
                I don't think you understood the question.
                Where is the evidence for a global flood?
                E≈mc2
                "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

                "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
                -Bob B.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Stripe View Post
                  I don't think you understood the question.
                  I don't equip soldiers. I don't know if you do. You can answer if you want to.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Jacob View Post
                    I don't equip soldiers. I don't know if you do. You can answer if you want to.
                    You want me to answer my own question?
                    Where is the evidence for a global flood?
                    E≈mc2
                    "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

                    "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
                    -Bob B.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Stripe View Post
                      You want me to answer my own question?
                      Sure.

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                      • #41
                        Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
                        There's a lot of rage in those who practice homosexuality.........

                        Originally posted by TrumpTrainCA View Post
                        ...and there is a lot of obsession in you. I'll bet you could not go one day without thinking of homosexuals.
                        I'm sorry if I made you feel uncomfortable talking about how homosexuals disproportionately are serial killers.

                        Back to Ted Bundy: Why do you think he hated women like he did? Many homosexuals hate their mother or another female authoritative figure because of the verbal and/or physical abuse that they were subjected to during childhood.
                        The very long history of Donald Trump's pro homosexual and transgender activism, before and during his Presidency, can be found on page 141, post # 2113 and #2114.
                        http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336963
                        http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336964

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Jacob View Post
                          Sure.
                          OK.

                          Nobody should decide. People should be free to bear whatever guns they want.
                          Last edited by Stripe; May 9th, 2019, 07:35 PM.
                          Where is the evidence for a global flood?
                          E≈mc2
                          "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

                          "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
                          -Bob B.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Stripe View Post
                            OK.

                            nobody should decide. People should be free to bear whatever guns they want.
                            Maybe. Unless nobody should have guns.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Jacob View Post
                              Maybe. Unless nobody should have guns.
                              Too late.
                              All of my ancestors are human.
                              Originally posted by Squeaky
                              That explains why your an idiot.
                              Originally posted by God's Truth
                              Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
                              Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
                              (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

                              1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
                              (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

                              Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Jacob View Post
                                Maybe. Unless nobody should have guns.
                                And how will you make sure nobody has guns?

                                Aren't you going to need guns for that task?

                                And can you begin to see how important the right to bear arms is, because somebody has to have guns, the right to bear arms simply states that we are all authorized to have guns, just because we're humans?
                                "Those who believe in Christ" are all the Christians, Catholic or not.

                                @Nee_Nihilo

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