Evangelicals Made a Bad Bargain With Trump

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Now it's "Patriot Churches..."

Seeking power in Jesus’ name: Trump sparks a rise of ‘Patriot Churches’



This is a Patriot Church, part of an evolving network of nondenominational start-up congregations that say they want to take the country back for God. While most White conservative Christian churches might only touch on politics around election time and otherwise choose to keep the focus during worship on God, politics and religion are inseparable here. The Tennessee congregation is one of three Patriot Churches that formed in September. The other two are near Liberty University in Lynchburg, Va., and in Spokane, Wash., and Peters says he is talking with several more pastors of existing churches who want to join them.
 
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The Patriot Churches belong to what religion experts describe as a loosely organized Christian nationalist movement that has flourished under President Trump. In just four years, he has helped reshape the landscape of American Christianity by elevating Christians once considered fringe, including Messianic Jews, preachers of the prosperity gospel and self-styled prophets. At times, this made for some strange bedfellows, but the common thread among them is a sense of being under siege and a belief that America has been and should remain a Christian nation.

From his lectern during the worship service, Peters rails against perceived attacks on First Amendment freedoms, decrying government mandates and calling masks “face diapers.”

Since 2016, much attention has been drawn to the 80 percent of White evangelicals who voted for Trump. And experts say that support is best understood in the context of Christian nationalism.
 
Arthur Brain

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Stripe said:
Oh. There are no liberals screeching that the rules that let them murder their children will be taken away when Donaldtrump wins four more years?

None?

Perhaps you don't trust the Guardian. :idunno:
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/13/...arly-voting-amy-coney-barrett.html?0p19G=6214
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That's an "if", not when. There's also no chance that Trump is going to outlaw abortion even if he does get back in either. So if there are people who are whining, it's all moot regardless.
 
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That's a "that," not an "if."

Liberals are screeching that Donaldtrump is going to abolish abortion and in this thread people who claim to be pro-life Christians are backing joebiden over him.
 
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Trump’s white evangelical approval slips, Pew finds, but 82 percent still likely to vote for him
https://www.washingtonpost.com/reli...ips-pew-finds-82-percent-still-plan-vote-him/

Why white evangelicals are at odds with America
They are increasingly losing ground to the mainstream.
In the moral, ethnocultural world that constitutes their belief system, white evangelicals see themselves losing ground to an American mainstream they once bestrode like a colossus. Sooner or later they’re going to have to take the advice of (ex-)Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney and get over it. They’ll be better Americans when they do.
https://religionnews.com/2020/03/15/why-white-evangelicals-are-at-odds-with-america/
 
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So...

Barbarian thinks it would be better if Christians were pro-abortion.
 
Arthur Brain

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Stripe said:
That's a "that," not an "if."

Liberals are screeching that Donaldtrump is going to abolish abortion and in this thread people who claim to be pro-life Christians are backing joebiden over him.
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Have you had one too many light beers tonight or something?

Donald Trump isn't going to abolish abortion whatsoever and in fairness neither is Biden.

Get a grip.

:AMR:
 
Arthur Brain

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annabenedetti said:
So go make your own thread. You and Stripe like to derail threads, I know. But this one is about evangelicals, the deal they made with Trump and what the fallout of that deal is going to be, which includes, but isn't limited to this:

For starters, by overlooking and excusing the president’s staggering array of personal and public corruptions, Trump’s evangelical supporters have forfeited the right to ever again argue that character counts in America’s political leaders. They might try, but if they do, they will be met with belly laughs. It’s not that their argument is invalidated; it is that because of their glaring hypocrisy, they have sabotaged their credibility in making the argument.

and this:

But if evangelical supporters of Trump are honest, they should admit—at least to themselves, if not to the rest of the world—that something has gone terribly amiss and that the power they have achieved is coming at the expense of the faith they proclaim.

and this:

I’ve argued in these pages before that the Trump-evangelical alliance has inflicted enormous damage on the Christian witness in America, particularly among Millennials and Gen Z. Unfortunately, the stories keep pouring in.
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It's telling that certain elements are reduced to inventing up stuff that nobody rational is taking seriously anyway. Trump abolishing abortion?

Who on earth could possibly take that seriously without one huge dose of salt?

;)
 
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Arthur Brain said:
Donald Trump isn't going to abolish abortion whatsoever
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Tell that to the screeching liberals at the Guardian and the New York Times — a former newspaper — and the mindless hordes of Biden lovers who would parrot them if any of them could read or if they were read. :idunno:

and in fairness neither is Biden.
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:darwinsm:

That's right.

:plain:

He wants to be allowed to murder children even after they are born.

Get a grip.

:AMR:
 
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Speaking of grips, joebiden wants to ban all online sales of weapons and accessories, plus other measures that would curtail the ability of a man to arm himself to shoot bad guys.
 
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:mock: religion.

I spend most of my time in the YEC forum, ya daft chick.
 
Arthur Brain

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Stripe said:
Tell that to the screeching liberals at the Guardian and the New York Times — a former newspaper — and the mindless hordes of Biden lovers who would parrot them if any of them could read or if they were read. :idunno:



:darwinsm:

That's right.

:plain:

He wants to be allowed to murder children even after they are born.

Get a grip.

:AMR:
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Uh, yeah, and Trump cares about children oh so very much, whether out of the womb or not...you never have been very bright have you Stripe?

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