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  • #46
    Originally posted by ok doser View Post


    Several months of rioting in the cities makes me believe that they'd already gotten that message
    So doser thinks that hundreds of millions of Americans are rioters.
    So long as he never gets the chance to represent any US citizens.........

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    • #47
      Originally posted by eider View Post

      So doser thinks that hundreds of millions of Americans are rioters....
      doser thinks that you're retarded

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      • #48
        Originally posted by way 2 go View Post
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        O R personnel
        wear N95 masks , don't touch their mask , change their masks often , wear gloves
        When I worked ORs there were no N95 masks. They weren't even invented until the early 1970s, and weren't adapted to health care until the 1990s. And yet OR personnel still didn't have more infections than others. Gloves have absolutely no effect on airborne contamination.

        no one in the general public (hyperbole) handles mask correctly , everybody adjusts them while wearing them
        because most cloth masks don't fit properly & creep down their face when they talk
        Fortunately, perfection isn't required to make masks effective. Go look up "minimum infectious dose." You move around in a cloud of microorganisms that circulate vertically by convection. The idea is to prevent horizontal projection of the virus.

        they touch a door handle then later they adjust their mask , a warm & moist environment , a literal petri dish on their face,
        In the sense that neither the petri dish nor the mask will grow virus. Thought you realized that.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
          Fortunately, perfection isn't required to make masks effective.
          You'd want close to perfection if the goal was only to protect yourself. Since the main goal is public health, a reduction in the probability of transmission is very helpful. The main point is to think about public health. some here have a hard time thinking about the public, or even of their own communities and families.

          As an aside, I unfortunately have been spending some time in the hospital with a sick relative. The ward has two quarantine rooms set up for the new patients, who move to regular rooms only after they've tested negative for Covid. They keep the windows open as much as possible. The staff is careful about masks and hygiene, as are all the visitors (who are limited in number). The masks are all plain simple masks, not N95, but it does the trick. They had wards that were shut down back in April, when they weren't careful, and staff got infected, and their colleagues went into quarantine; their current procedures apparently do the trick.

          Personally, I haven't spent this much time indoors with so many people in 6 months. I attend prayers regularly, but always outside and distanced.

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          • #50
            Social distancing and mask wearing don't matter if you're a leftist:


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            • #51
              Originally posted by ok doser View Post
              Social distancing and mask wearing don't matter if you're a leftist:
              Nice try. That photo is from January 18.

              Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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              • #52
                Originally posted by annabenedetti View Post

                Nice try. That photo is from January 18.
                hard to keep up - those silly women will march at the drop of a pin

                I'll see if i can find one from yesterday

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                • #53
                  Here's one.




                  Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by chair View Post

                    You'd want close to perfection if the goal was only to protect yourself. Since the main goal is public health, a reduction in the probability of transmission is very helpful. The main point is to think about public health. some here have a hard time thinking about the public, or even of their own communities and families.

                    As an aside, I unfortunately have been spending some time in the hospital with a sick relative. The ward has two quarantine rooms set up for the new patients, who move to regular rooms only after they've tested negative for Covid. They keep the windows open as much as possible. The staff is careful about masks and hygiene, as are all the visitors (who are limited in number). The masks are all plain simple masks, not N95, but it does the trick. They had wards that were shut down back in April, when they weren't careful, and staff got infected, and their colleagues went into quarantine; their current procedures apparently do the trick.

                    Personally, I haven't spent this much time indoors with so many people in 6 months. I attend prayers regularly, but always outside and distanced.
                    praying for your relative

                    cloth masks do have some utility in a controlled environment

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
                      Bottom line? Where masks are commonly used, fewer infections.

                      Covid Superspreader events?
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by chair View Post

                        You'd want close to perfection if the goal was only to protect yourself.
                        For one client, I had to be a certified safety professional, so I took the test to be certified. And systems safety works in terms of cost-benefit reduced hazard. So a significant decrease in likelihood of infection is an acceptable reason to wear a mask.

                        Since the main goal is public health, a reduction in the probability of transmission is very helpful. The main point is to think about public health. some here have a hard time thinking about the public, or even of their own communities and families.
                        That's the other part of it. So it's a very sensible control. But unfortunately the incompetent in the WH made it a political issue,and so the idiots are more interested in being politically correct than rationally considering the options.

                        Sorry to hear of your relative. Just about an hour ago, my youngest daughter called me. Her father-in-law died this morning. Apparently of COVID-19. Her husband just tested positive and had stopped by to see us a few days ago. He's grieving for his father,and torn up with guilt about possibly exposing us. I tried to reassure her that we have no resentment against him. Joe is the youngest son, but the strongest one, and he's got enough to do; his mother is not taking it well. He doesn't need to worry about how we feel. Meagan has been getting lots of support from her sibs; my oldest daughter talked to her, and although she's blunt as a rock normally, she said all the right things, God bless her,

                        We'll get tested Monday; I'm not worried about me. For some reason, I'm just not scared of it. My kids are all worried for us, though. And I'm worried about Mrs. Barbarian. Just because.



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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by ok doser View Post
                          Social distancing and mask wearing don't matter if you're a leftist:
                          This type of post, even if it was accurate, doesn't prove a dern thing about whether masks help or not. It could show that some on the left are jerks, just like some people on the right. As it is- it isn't relevant at all.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by chair View Post

                              This type of post, even if it was accurate, doesn't prove a dern thing about whether masks help or not. It could show that some on the left are jerks, just like some people on the right. As it is- it isn't relevant at all.
                              Then feel free to ignore it

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by way 2 go View Post

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                                Kinda defeats the idea of a mosh pit, eh?




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