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    CDC study: 70 percent of covid infected patients reported ‘always’ wearing a mask

    A study by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), which not surprisingly has flown under the major media’s radar, found that 70 percent of Americans who contracted coronavirus in July reported “always” wearing a mask.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/...mm6936a5-H.pdf

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  • #2
    Originally posted by way 2 go View Post
    CDC study: 70 percent of covid infected patients reported ‘always’ wearing a mask

    A study by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), which not surprisingly has flown under the major media’s radar, found that 70 percent of Americans who contracted coronavirus in July reported “always” wearing a mask.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/...mm6936a5-H.pdf

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    Not the scary narrative the MSM wants to push

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    • #3
      Originally posted by way 2 go View Post
      CDC study: 70 percent of covid infected patients reported ‘always’ wearing a mask
      First: self-reporting isn't predictably reliable. There's something called social desirability bias where people will answer in a way they perceive will be well-received. They can overstate the good or understate the bad. The people responding to the survey already have Covid, and it's quite possible that they want to believe they "always" wore a mask and therefore aren't responsible for getting Covid. It's not necessarily a character defect to want to believe the best about oneself, it's just human nature. But it might not be accurate.

      Second: 51% of cases were acquired from family members. How many of us wear masks in our family bubble?

      Third: I can't remember the percentage but one of the places the patients had more commonly been in the previous 14 days was restaurants. People can't eat and wear masks and at least where I live you're not required to wear them once you're seated at a table. But for those eating indoors, circulated air can pose a greater risk of exposure to the virus.

      I'm not saying masks will always work, but on the flip side they won't always fail and they aren't going to infect you (if you're wearing them and handling them the way you should) more than if you hadn't worn them at all. So using this as a reason not to wear a mask? It doesn't make the case.

      Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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      • #4
        way 2 go


        so annabananahead is not only racist, a promoter of the murder of children and an apologist for child pornography, she's anti-science

        amazing

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ok doser View Post
          way 2 go


          so annabananahead is not only racist, a promoter of the murder of children and an apologist for child pornography, she's anti-science

          amazing
          Either you're not the science guy you claim to be, sod, or you didn't spend any of the 9 minutes between the OP and your initial reply to actually read the data.



          Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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          • #6
            Originally posted by way 2 go View Post
            CDC study: 70 percent of covid infected patients reported ‘always’ wearing a mask
            70.6%, to be exact

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            • #7
              Originally posted by annabenedetti View Post
              Second: 51% of cases were acquired from family members. How many of us wear masks in our family bubble?
              Those who report wearing their masks "always", I would assume

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              • #8
                way 2 go


                so annabananahead is not only racist, a promoter of the murder of children and an apologist for child pornography, she's desperate to push the "wear your mask at all times!" mantra

                I can only assume it's a result of her raging case of TDS

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ok doser View Post
                  way 2 go


                  so annabananahead is not only racist, a promoter of the murder of children and an apologist for child pornography, she's desperate to push the "wear your mask at all times!" mantra
                  Keep adding to your list and pretty soon you'll be able to sing them to The Hole in the Bottom of the Sea.

                  There's a fleck on the speck on the tail
                  On the frog on the bump on the branch
                  On the log in the hole in the bottom of the sea,
                  There's a fleck on the speck on the tail
                  On the frog on the bump On the branch
                  On the log in the hole in the bottom of the sea,
                  There's a fleck, there's a fleck,
                  There's a fleck on the speck on the tail
                  On the frog on the bump on the branch
                  On the log in the hole in the bottom of the sea.

                  Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ok doser View Post

                    Those who report wearing their masks "always", I would assume
                    This made me laugh out loud!


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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by annabenedetti View Post


                      I'm not saying masks will always work, but on the flip side they won't always fail and they aren't going to infect you (if you're wearing them and handling them the way you should) more than if you hadn't worn them at all. So using this as a reason not to wear a mask? It doesn't make the case.
                      no one (hyperbole) handles mask correctly , everybody adjusts them while wearing them
                      they touch a door handle then later they adjust their mask , a warm & moist environment , a literal petri dish on their face,
                      so yes masks cause infection

                      cloth masks have a 97% failure rate at prevention

                      ok doser

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by way 2 go View Post

                        no one (hyperbole) handles mask correctly , everybody adjusts them while wearing them
                        they touch a door handle then later they adjust their mask , a warm & moist environment , a literal petri dish on their face,
                        so yes masks cause infection
                        If so, then OR personnel, and workers who wear dust masks at work all day would have higher rates of infection. But they don't. Your story runs head-on into reality, and doesn't survive the crash.

                        cloth masks have a 97% failure rate at prevention
                        The report doesn't say that. In fact, the addendum argues that cloth masks are less effective than medical masks, but more effective than not wearing masks:
                        https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/...-a-last-resort

                        Moreover, this paper is seven months old, from March, before adequate studies on effectiveness of cloth masks on COVID-19. More recently...


                        Emerg Infect Dis. 2020 Oct; 26(10): e200948.
                        Effectiveness of Cloth Masks for Protection Against Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2
                        Abstract
                        Cloth masks have been used in healthcare and community settings to protect the wearer from respiratory infections. The use of cloth masks during the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) pandemic is under debate. The filtration effectiveness of cloth masks is generally lower than that of medical masks and respirators; however, cloth masks may provide some protection if well designed and used correctly. Multilayer cloth masks, designed to fit around the face and made of water-resistant fabric with a high number of threads and finer weave, may provide reasonable protection. Until a cloth mask design is proven to be equally effective as a medical or N95 mask, wearing cloth masks should not be mandated for healthcare workers. In community settings, however, cloth masks may be used to prevent community spread of infections by sick or asymptomatically infected persons, and the public should be educated about their correct use.



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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by annabenedetti View Post

                          First: self-reporting isn't predictably reliable. There's something called social desirability bias where people will answer in a way they perceive will be well-received. They can overstate the good or understate the bad. The people responding to the survey already have Covid, and it's quite possible that they want to believe they "always" wore a mask and therefore aren't responsible for getting Covid. It's not necessarily a character defect to want to believe the best about oneself, it's just human nature. But it might not be accurate.

                          Second: 51% of cases were acquired from family members. How many of us wear masks in our family bubble?

                          Third: I can't remember the percentage but one of the places the patients had more commonly been in the previous 14 days was restaurants. People can't eat and wear masks and at least where I live you're not required to wear them once you're seated at a table. But for those eating indoors, circulated air can pose a greater risk of exposure to the virus.

                          I'm not saying masks will always work, but on the flip side they won't always fail and they aren't going to infect you (if you're wearing them and handling them the way you should) more than if you hadn't worn them at all. So using this as a reason not to wear a mask? It doesn't make the case.
                          It really is pathetic isn't it? Wearing a mask doesn't so much protect the wearer but other people from transmission but hey, certain snowflakes want to whine on about their rights being violated regardless or some such garbage.
                          Well this is fun isn't it?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by annabenedetti View Post

                            Either you're not the science guy you claim to be, sod, or you didn't spend any of the 9 minutes between the OP and your initial reply to actually read the data.


                            Loved this.......
                            You do make the snitch look like a complete troll.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post

                              It really is pathetic isn't it? Wearing a mask doesn't so much protect the wearer but other people from transmission but hey, certain snowflakes want to whine on about their rights being violated regardless or some such garbage.
                              Where I live, not wearing a mask is a really bad idea. It's not just the shops, buses, trains etc that turn you away, it's the fines.

                              All our medical workers wear masks all shift long, and then I read laymen trying to be clever about why they don't work. Duh.....

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