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    Bernie Sanders has won the popular vote in Iowa (albeit marginally losing the delegate count). He won New Hampshire outright. And he is projected to win Nevada by 20 points or more. Before Nevada, polling consistently showed him neck and neck with Joe Biden. With the momentum from his three state winning streak, he's probably going to win South Carolina as well.

    If he wins all four states, an overwhelming Super Tuesday victory is almost assured. And if that happens, it's game over. Bernie Sanders is going to become the democratic nominee.

    Nate Silver has Bernie Sanders at a 47% chance to win the democratic nomination outright.

    Donald Trump's days in office are numbered.

    For you Trumpists who don't remember why Donald Trump won in 2016, let me remind you. He didn't win because he played to the Republican base. If anything, he went against Republican orthodoxy. He promised universal healthcare coverage. Once he got in office, he raised the idea of just putting everyone on Medicare (his cabinet quickly talked him out of that). He promised that he wouldn't cut social security, medicare and Medicaid. He promised a trillion dollar infrastructure bill. He promised to end the disastrous trade deals (read outsourcing bills) that have hollowed out the middle of the country. He promised to end the disastrous regime change wars overseas.

    Donald Trump won because he won the Rust Belt by a slim margin by getting former two times Obama voters to vote for him.

    And he has broken almost every single promise that he made.

    When Bernie Sanders campaigns in the Rust Belt, he is going to promise those out of work coal minors and factory workers medicare for all, a federal job guarantee, a $15 minimum wage. And he's going to be tougher on trade than Donald Trump is.

    Donald Trump won because he ran as a populist and promised Rust Belt voters hope and change. Hillary Clinton did not.

    He is going to get crushed by an actual populist.

    Those out of work coal miners and factory workers voted for hope and change in 2008. They voted for it again in 2016. And they'll do it again in 2020.

    Donald Trump is probably going to win the hardcore Republican states. I don't doubt that. But he's going to lose the Rust Belt. He'll probably even lose Texas. And he'll lose the race.

    #Bernie2020
    #NotMeUs

  • #2
    Originally posted by Traditio View Post
    For you Trumpists who don't remember why Donald Trump won in 2016, let me remind you.
    I made a thread on why Trump won--or, more to the point, why Hillary Clinton lost. I am interested to know your thoughts on that topic. Here's a link: Hillary Clinton can't rewrite history, but she'll try

    Originally posted by Traditio View Post
    He promised a trillion dollar infrastructure bill...And he has broken almost every single promise that he made.
    Yes, Trump lied bigly during the 2016 campaign, especially about "rebuilding America's infrastructure." It is badly needed and would have been great if he kept to that promise, but since he is an obvious fraud it didn't happen. Expect Trump to roll out this lie again as he attempts to get reelected in November.

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    • #3
      Its virtually impossible to beat a sitting POTUS in a strong economy

      Besides, Bernie's 107 years old.

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      • #4
        @ Traditio.. Interesting. I hope you’re right.
        A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man
        we can trust with nuclear weapons.

        Bill Clinton






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        • #5
          Welcome back Traditio !

          Ran across this the other day going over some old threads and bookmarked it for a welcome back for you

          Originally posted by zippy2006 View Post

          Hey Trad,

          I think you made an interesting and valid point in the original post and throughout the thread. I think some of the responses were probably overreactions to the point you were making.

          I see you've admitted some racist tendencies. I know you struggle with certain things, including aspergers, so I'm sure it can be hard. Even so, Anna is right and it is clearly a place for improvement and something you ought to work at. Despite our own advantages and disadvantages, we are all quite small before Christ. We stand at the bottom of a mountain to be climbed; perhaps the Mexican is a bit shorter than you, perhaps someone without aspergers is a bit taller. Either way, it doesn't make a big difference in light of the mountain, and Christ loved the least most.

          I admire your intellect and your utter honesty, but your racism is a disappointment. Be at peace, keep looking at yourself clearly, keep your nose to the grindstone and your eyes on the Lord. I have great hope for you.

          You have my prayers, pray for me as well,
          -zip

          Do you stay in touch with Zippy?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Traditio View Post
            Bernie Sanders Is About to Become President
            Put your money where your mouth is. Let's make a bet, with the help of the moderators.

            If Bernie is elected I am forever out of this forum, and if Trump is elected you are forever out, bet to be enforced by moderator by mutual agreement.

            What do you say. You talk a big game, let's see if you mean it.

            I know Trump will win and I know that everything you posted is garbage. So how about it.

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            • #7
              Hey!

              I don't want either of you out!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rusha View Post
                @ Traditio.. Interesting. I hope you’re right.
                Well, there is one vote for destroying jobs, making us energy dependent again, infanticide, socialism, tax payer money to illegal aliens, men allowed in my bathroom, and massive taxes.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ok doser View Post
                  Hey!

                  I don't want either of you out!

                  LOL. That is nice. Thank you. But I am making a point and I stand by my offer:

                  Originally posted by Traditio View Post
                  Bernie Sanders Is About to Become President
                  Put your money where your mouth is. Let's make a bet, with the help of the moderators.

                  If Bernie is elected I am forever out of this forum, and if Trump is elected you are forever out, bet to be enforced by moderator by mutual agreement.

                  What do you say. You talk a big game, let's see if you mean it.

                  I know Trump will win and I know that everything you posted is garbage. So how about it.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ok doser View Post
                    Hey!

                    I don't want either of you out!
                    Hear hear!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post

                      Hear hear!
                      We need some sort of prize for the winner then.

                      I say that because I know it will be me. lol

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                      • #12
                        As Sanders Rises, Democrats Panic About Losing House Majority
                        https://bongino.com/as-sanders-rises...ouse-majority/

                        Republicans are working on their strategy to retake the house in November, which will focus on zeroing in on districts carried by President Trump in 2016 that voted for Democrats in 2018. The National Republican Congressional Committee specifically is targeting 31 Democrats running in Trump districts, among others.
                        The GOP lost 40 seats in 2018, and needs to win 18 back to regain control.

                        And thanks to Bernie Sanders, that could be easier done than said.

                        According to Rollcall: Even before Sanders won the New Hampshire primary Tuesday, as expected, and came in a close second in the Iowa delegate tally to Pete Buttigieg, there were Democrats saying that nominating the senator from Vermont could threaten their House majority. They feared having the self-proclaimed democratic socialist at the top of the ticket could complicate efforts to win over the independents and moderate Republicans they need to win reelection.

                        “If it becomes a race between socialism and capitalism, yes, absolutely,” the majority is in danger, Minnesota Rep. Dean Phillips said. Phillips has endorsed his home-state senator, Amy Klobuchar, who finished third in New Hampshire. Republicans were eager to tie vulnerable Democrats to Sanders. On Wednesday, the Congressional Leadership Fund, a super PAC aligned with House GOP leadership, highlighted a report from The Hill in which Reps. Elaine Luria of Virginia and Haley Stevens of Michigan said they would support the eventual nominee, Sanders included.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ok doser View Post
                          Its virtually impossible to beat a sitting POTUS in a strong economy

                          Besides, Bernie's 107 years old.
                          This is a talking point that right wingers love to repeat, but it's not true. The Trump economy looks a lot like the Obama economy. The simple fact is that the GDP and the stock market aren't good indicators of how average workers are actually doing. Only about half of Americans even have stock, and the vast majority of the stock is held by a relative handful of people.

                          The unemployment rate is a better indicator, but not by much. As Trump himself admitted on the campaign trail in 2016, the official unemployment numbers underestimate the actual unemployment rate, and even then, that doesn't take into account the underemployment rate.

                          Roughly half of all wage earners earn $30k per year or less. Most Americans would be bankrupted by a $500 emergency. Collectively, Americans owe $1.5 trillion dollars in student loans. A million Americans go bankrupt every year because of medical bills. And welfare? Let's talk about welfare. There is a huge number of Americans who are a part of what is called "the working poor." They have jobs. But they don't make enough to live on. So they have to rely on food stamps and other government handouts.

                          Also, you know that something like 25%-50% of HOMELESS people HAVE JOBS, right? They just don't make enough money to put a roof over their heads.

                          And you realize that wages have been stagnant since the mid 1960s, right? We haven't had a truly "strong economy" in 40+ years.

                          We've had an incredibly weak economy where we've seen massive increases in productivity...almost of all of the gains of which have gone to the top 1%. CEOs and billionaires are doing wonderfully. Meanwhile the average American is up to his eyeballs in debt.

                          The capitalist class is doing very well for itself. Meanwhile, the working class is being crushed under heel.

                          I'm sure that Trump is wonderfully popular in whatever right wing bubble you live in.

                          But unemployed factory workers and coal miners in the rust belt are just as addicted to meth and heroine and dying from diseases of despair under Trump as they were under Obama.

                          They still want hope and change.

                          And Bernie Sanders is going to bring it.

                          Also, don't get things mixed up.

                          Donald Trump isn't popular. He's president because his opponent was more unpopular than he was.

                          Bernie Sanders is the most popular senator in the country. He has a 60+% approval rating.

                          The sole reason Trump is president right now is because the DNC rigged the election against Bernie Sanders in 2016.

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                          • #14
                            Further point. Don't take my word for it. Take Donald Trump's word for it.

                            Behind closed doors, he's PANICKING over the prospect of actually having to run a campaign against Bernie Sanders.

                            He thanked his lucky stars when Hillary Clinton picked Tim Kaine, and not Bernie Sanders, as VP.

                            "That would have been tougher. I got like 20% of his supporters in the general. His whole thing is that we're getting screwed on trade, and he's right. I'm worse than he is."

                            "Cancelling student debt. That's rough."

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                            • #15
                              What Sanders supporters don't get about socialist policies
                              Last edited by Trump Gurl; February 23rd, 2020, 03:24 PM.

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