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  • #46
    Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    I agree with both articles quoted in relation to basic human rights that I believe people should have. .
    ok, let's consider this one:


    Article 25.(1) Everyone has the right to ... housing ....



    and then let's consider this:

    At least 320,000 homeless people in Britain, says Shelter
    Charity says figure for England, Scotland and Wales is likely to be underestimate



    https://www.theguardian.com/society/...n-says-shelter



    how many of those 320,000 homeless people are you hosting right now in your house?

    and why are you denying the "right" of the rest to live with you?

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post

      I'm no such thing as a "totalitarian" or whatever label you want to compartmentalize people into. I agree with both articles quoted in relation to basic human rights that I believe people should have. If you differ then set out why, don't just blow smoke and toss out labels that you want to pigeonhole people into.
      I see you also have reading comprehension issues. I gave you my reasons.

      It's also nice of you to show your disrespect for liberty, for without property rights there is zero liberty.
      There is a name for a person who has had his right to own and control his own property taken away from him. He's called a slave. So what you are in effect advocating is slavery.

      And, that idea is the one of the base tenets of Marxism. Remember, from each according to his own ability. That means if a person is capable of earning more than his absolute necessities marxists would take the rest of his property away from him. That's exactly what you're advocating by saying those who have property they aren't using at the moment should lose control of it and others who didn't earn it should just be able to commandeer it at will. You are advocating marxism right down the line. You have done this repeatedly on multiple occasions and on multiple issues that are marxist issues. Thus, you hold the basic tenets of marxism to be true. In other words, you are a marxist/socialist but supposedly can't even realize it.

      That you can't see the evil in this practice is amazing. It's back to the days of serf and royalty where the royalty, i.e, government, takes away anything above subsistence level living from the population. It's the equality of slavery and poverty in society with the "elite" owning everything and taking everything at their own whim. That is the destination that is being aimed at by those you follow.

      Here's a little something for you from one of greatest political minds of all time, Alexis de Tocqueville.
      Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.
      “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.”
      ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

      “One and God make a majority.”
      ― Frederick Douglass

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post

        I'm no such thing as a "totalitarian" or whatever label you want to compartmentalize people into.


        All of my ancestors are human.
        Originally posted by Squeaky
        That explains why your an idiot.
        Originally posted by God's Truth
        Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
        Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
        (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

        1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
        (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

        Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
          While I generally agree with you. I don't like the idea that you want to take away my right to vote, since my land is only about a third of an acre.
          Well, if it makes you feel any better, I'd lose the right to vote also.

          Can you imagine the how high the demand for land would be? You'd really have to want to have skin in the game!
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          "The [open view] is an attempt to provide a more Biblically faithful, rationally coherent, and practically satisfying account of God and the divine-human relationship..." - Dr. John Sanders

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post

            I'm no such thing as a "totalitarian" or whatever label you want to compartmentalize people into. I agree with both articles quoted in relation to basic human rights that I believe people should have. If you differ then set out why, don't just blow smoke and toss out labels that you want to pigeonhole people into.
            Someone already told you why. You thought it was a rant, you slobering moron!
            sigpic
            "The [open view] is an attempt to provide a more Biblically faithful, rationally coherent, and practically satisfying account of God and the divine-human relationship..." - Dr. John Sanders

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            • #51
              Originally posted by ffreeloader View Post

              I see you also have reading comprehension issues. I gave you my reasons.



              There is a name for a person who has had his right to own and control his own property taken away from him. He's called a slave. So what you are in effect advocating is slavery.

              And, that idea is the one of the base tenets of Marxism. Remember, from each according to his own ability. That means if a person is capable of earning more than his absolute necessities marxists would take the rest of his property away from him. That's exactly what you're advocating by saying those who have property they aren't using at the moment should lose control of it and others who didn't earn it should just be able to commandeer it at will. You are advocating marxism right down the line. You have done this repeatedly on multiple occasions and on multiple issues that are marxist issues. Thus, you hold the basic tenets of marxism to be true. In other words, you are a marxist/socialist but supposedly can't even realize it.

              That you can't see the evil in this practice is amazing. It's back to the days of serf and royalty where the royalty, i.e, government, takes away anything above subsistence level living from the population. It's the equality of slavery and poverty in society with the "elite" owning everything and taking everything at their own whim. That is the destination that is being aimed at by those you follow.

              Here's a little something for you from one of greatest political minds of all time, Alexis de Tocqueville.
              Hmm, your "reasons" are bat crazy and your desire to label anyone a "Marxist" who doesn't step in line with your own beliefs has been all too evident. You tried this same garbage with anna and were schooled in the ignorance of it time and again. If you want to label people and assume what they think then knock yourself out but there's no reason to take you seriously. May as well be getting "lectured" by Alex Jones...

              Well this is fun isn't it?

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post

                Hmm, your "reasons" are bat crazy and your desire to label anyone a "Marxist" who doesn't step in line with your own beliefs has been all too evident. You tried this same garbage with anna and were schooled in the ignorance of it time and again. If you want to label people and assume what they think then knock yourself out but there's no reason to take you seriously. May as well be getting "lectured" by Alex Jones...

                congratulations

                you manage to formulate a complete response without addressing a single point ffreeloader made


                that means you lose

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Clete View Post

                  Someone already told you why. You thought it was a rant, you slobering moron!
                  Well, no he didn't and considering their propensity for hyperbole and weakness for conspiracy theories it's hardly surprising he was off base,. Of course it was a rant on your behalf, same as the end of your post here. Childish shouting and tedious name calling, hardly the product of an intelligent and reasoned mind. Not healthy to be so angry all the time either really...

                  Meantime, you haven't addressed anything and still waiting as to whether Lazarus was just some work shy "bum" who deserved his lot in life?
                  Well this is fun isn't it?

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Right Divider View Post

                    Wow, you're easily amused. By what though is anyone's guess.
                    Well this is fun isn't it?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post

                      Well, no he didn't and considering their propensity for hyperbole and weakness for conspiracy theories it's hardly surprising he was off base,. Of course it was a rant on your behalf, same as the end of your post here. Childish shouting and tedious name calling, hardly the product of an intelligent and reasoned mind. Not healthy to be so angry all the time either really...

                      Meantime, you haven't addressed anything and still waiting as to whether Lazarus was just some work shy "bum" who deserved his lot in life?
                      Lazarus not being a thief is what allowed him to go to Abraham.
                      Oh how I love the Word of God!

                      Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by God's Truth View Post

                        Lazarus not being a thief is what allowed him to go to Abraham.
                        Nobody was saying he was a thief to begin with but plenty seem to look down on people like Lazarus who was homeless and begging.
                        Well this is fun isn't it?

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post

                          Nobody was saying he was a thief to begin with but plenty seem to look down on people like Lazarus who was homeless and begging.
                          ...but the thread is about someone just taking over property that isn't theirs.
                          Oh how I love the Word of God!

                          Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by God's Truth View Post

                            ...but the thread is about someone just taking over property that isn't theirs.
                            So why make a point about Lazarus if that's all you're bothered about?
                            Well this is fun isn't it?

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
                              ... plenty seem to look down on people like Lazarus who was homeless and begging.

                              in this thread?

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post

                                So why make a point about Lazarus if that's all you're bothered about?
                                You are the one who brought up Lazarus as some kind of defense for the women stealing space in a home that isn't theirs.
                                Oh how I love the Word of God!

                                Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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