Inside every liberal/progressive/socialist is a totalitarian screaming to get out

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The following article was the winning entry in a contest run by David Horowitz's site FrontPageMag.com.

Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out

The Progressive believes in precisely two things: his own magnificence and the constructive power of brute force. In combination, they lead him naturally from the role of pestiferous busybody to brutal dictator. Where the productive man dreams of the things he might create if only left alone by his fellows, the Progressive dreams of the world he could create if only the lives and property of his fellows were at his disposal. The roots of his pathology lie in that oldest and most destructive of all human vices, the desire for the power to rule over other men.

As naked power-lust is a rather ugly motive, the Progressive rationalizes his desire to rule as a concern for human welfare, seeing himself as a great humanitarian, far superior morally to the lesser beings who pursue merely “materialist” ends such as their own prosperity and who frequently object to his program for achieving Utopia. This assumed moral superiority spills over into fields of practical accomplishment, and the Progressive imagines himself capable of allocating resources and even directing entire industries far more efficiently than a free market, often despite not even having any business or scientific experience. But despite what the Progressive believes about himself, the desire to compel others to obey his orders is what drives him forward. To satisfy this desire, there is ultimately no limit to what actions he will take, for he respects none of the restrictions on government officials intended to guarantee individual freedom that have been developed and set forth in written or unwritten constitutions.

It is easy to make the mistake of judging Progressivism by its earlier and less-severe manifestations and to conclude that its petty and paternalistic restrictions, for example New York Mayor Michael “The Nanny” Bloomberg’s recent crusade against large-size soda drinks, are simply bothersome annoyances. In fact the transformation from irritating but superficially benevolent nanny to ruthless dictator not only occurs rather quickly, it is a logical consequence of the Progressive’s zeal to usher in Utopia and of the means he must use to achieve the smallest of his goals - brute force. We should recognize the following principle: Once the Progressive is permitted to intrude however slightly into matters that are properly beyond the sphere of government, then all aspects of the individual’s life may be subjected to control. Once any degree of coercion is permitted, then no level of force is out of bounds.

The rest of the article can be found at the following link. It's well worth the time to read. https://archives.frontpagemag.com/f...l-totalitarian-screaming-get-frontpagemagcom/
 

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I'm going to post a video here that is an interview of David Horowitz. He was raised in a communist family and his father revered Joseph Stalin. In the 1960s he was a leading marxist activist/radical at Berkeley and wrote several books in favor of Marxism. He has never become a Christian and is an agnostic. He's a very honest agnostic too. In this interview he shows how the US was created as a very Christian idea. He traces that train of thought out very well. He also makes some very valid criticisms of the Democrat party's anti-Christian stance.

A good interview of an intelligent, well-spoken, critical thinker. His book Radical Son should be a must read for every conservative so that they can understand exactly what it is they are up against in this battle which though agnostic that he is, says is very much a spiritual battle.

I was going to embed the video here but I can't as it is a Vimeo video that doesn't allow me to embed it. I'm posting the link to a page on Davide Horowitz's site where he has posted this interview. It's well worth the time to watch. BTW, the video I'm speaking of is the last video on the page.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2019/11/horowitz-video-how-america-christian-idea-frontpagemagcom/
 

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The following article was the winning entry in a contest run by David Horowitz's site FrontPageMag.com.



The rest of the article can be found at the following link. It's well worth the time to read.

"Once the Progressive is permitted to intrude however slightly into matters that are properly beyond the sphere of government, then all aspects of the individual’s life may be subjected to control. Once any degree of coercion is permitted, then no level of force is out of bounds."

banning plastic straws then plastic bags in the US & Canada is just about the small steps to more control



"Ocean Conservancy claims that China, Indonesia, the Philippines, Thailand and Vietnam
are spewing out as much as 60 percent of the plastic waste that enters the world’s seas."
 

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The following article was the winning entry in a contest run by David Horowitz

David Horowitz went from being an extreme left winger to an extreme right winger. Much like Billy Joel, he doesn't know why he goes to extremes--he just can't help himself.

As with virtually all things, the truth is somewhere closer to the middle.
 
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Gary K

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David Horowitz went from being an extreme left winger to an extreme right winger. Much like Billy Joel, he doesn't know why he goes to extremes--he just can't help himself.

As with virtually all things, the truth is somewhere closer to the middle.

LOL. Horowitz went from a radical Marxist to a conservative. He's not extreme, and he changed his thinking due to the murders of people he knew within the Marxist community which the Marxist community completely ignored even though they knew who was responsible. It took that kind of jolt to wake him up. His book, Radical Son, is one of the better books I've read. It exposes marxism for what it really is and how corrupt it is.

Lying about him, which is what marxists have been doing for years now, doesn't help your cause.
 

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banning plastic straws then plastic bags in the US & Canada is just about the small steps to more control



"Ocean Conservancy claims that China, Indonesia, the Philippines, Thailand and Vietnam
are spewing out as much as 60 percent of the plastic waste that enters the world’s seas."

That's the plan. Just keep on taking small incremental steps until liberty is completely gone. Just keep on putting on the pressure towards totalitarianism and publishing propaganda until the other side just concedes due to being worn out by the deceit and the political games. They've been hard at this game now for many decades.
 

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LOL. Horowitz went from a radical Marxist to a conservative. He's not extreme

Horowitz swung from the monolithic Left to the monolithic Right. These days, the Jewish Horowitz marches with the same pro-Trump swamp which harbors the insane "Jews shall not replace us" mentalities.

For my own part, I am more centrist than Left or Right, both of which tend toward extremes.
 

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As naked power-lust is a rather ugly motive, the Progressive rationalizes his desire to rule as a concern for human welfare, seeing himself as a great humanitarian, far superior morally to the lesser beings who pursue merely “materialist” ends such as their own prosperity and who frequently object to his program for achieving Utopia.

The Lord Jesus described the Progressives perfectly with the following words:

"To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’“But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’“I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted (18:9-14).
 

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Horowitz swung from the monolithic Left to the monolithic Right. These days, the Jewish Horowitz marches with the same pro-Trump swamp which harbors the insane "Jews shall not replace us" mentalities.

For my own part, I am more centrist than Left or Right, both of which tend toward extremes.

What monolithic right? I've never seen any such animal.
 

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The Lord Jesus described the Progressives perfectly with the following words:

"To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’“But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’“I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted (18:9-14).

The left, just like it's creator, Karl Marx, is far more interested in destroying than in building anything. They have the politics of hope. They hope what they are doing will work because their entire agenda is to destroy civilization and all Christian influence.
 

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What monolithic right? I've never seen any such animal.

I gave you an example in the post to which you replied: Horowitz is swift to score political points by decrying any antisemitism that he sees on the Left, whether real or imagined. But he ignores antisemitism on the Right.
 

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I gave you an example in the post to which you replied: Horowitz is swift to score political points by decrying any antisemitism that he sees on the Left, whether real or imagined. But he ignores antisemitism on the Right.

How is that supposed to be evidence of a monolithic right? And, btw, there is a ton of antisemitism on the left. They have attacked both the state of Israel and individual Jews time and time again. Remember how the LGBT march in Chicago kicked gay Jews out of their parade because the presence of Jews in the parade made so many of them feel triggered and afraid? It's amazing how antisemitic the left is and yet they go around accusing everyone else of their own issues.

I'd say anyone who says the right is of a solid single set of ideas has no idea whatsoever of what conservatives are really like. The variety of opinions and beliefs found on the right is far, far greater than that which is found on the left.
 

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David Horowitz went from being an extreme left winger to an extreme right winger. Much like Billy Joel, he doesn't know why he goes to extremes--he just can't help himself.

As with virtually all things, the truth is somewhere closer to the middle.

Yep, it's almost hilarious when people try to bracket anyone that doesn't hold the same political persuasion as themselves an "extremist" or some such, this thread being a prime example. It doesn't reflect actual reality by any stretch. Most people don't want totalitarianism on either side of the political "divide".
 

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How is that supposed to be evidence of a monolithic right? And, btw, there is a ton of antisemitism on the left. They have attacked both the state of Israel and individual Jews time and time again. Remember how the LGBT march in Chicago kicked gay Jews out of their parade because the presence of Jews in the parade made so many of them feel triggered and afraid? It's amazing how antisemitic the left is and yet they go around accusing everyone else of their own issues.

I'd say anyone who says the right is of a solid single set of ideas has no idea whatsoever of what conservatives are really like. The variety of opinions and beliefs found on the right is far, far greater than that which is found on the left.

Interestingly, Tel Aviv is considered the Gay Capital of the World.

https://theculturetrip.com/middle-e...f-the-most-lgbt-friendly-cities-in-the-world/


​Israel is one of the most inclusive societies in the world for the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) community. As early as the 1960s, same-sex couples lived in Israel freely and without fear of persecution. The Gay Revolution of the 1980s brought Israel's LGBT community full recognition of their human rights, as well as legal and social equality to individuals and families. Today, Tel Aviv is considered the "Gay Capital of the Middle East", thanks to its thriving and supported LGBT community, playing an integral role in Israeli society

From https://embassies.gov.il/la/AboutIsrael/IsraelExperience/Pages/Gay-Israel.aspx
 

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Interestingly, Tel Aviv is considered the Gay Capital of the World.

https://theculturetrip.com/middle-e...f-the-most-lgbt-friendly-cities-in-the-world/


​Israel is one of the most inclusive societies in the world for the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) community. As early as the 1960s, same-sex couples lived in Israel freely and without fear of persecution. The Gay Revolution of the 1980s brought Israel's LGBT community full recognition of their human rights, as well as legal and social equality to individuals and families. Today, Tel Aviv is considered the "Gay Capital of the Middle East", thanks to its thriving and supported LGBT community, playing an integral role in Israeli society

From https://embassies.gov.il/la/AboutIsrael/IsraelExperience/Pages/Gay-Israel.aspx

I didn't know that about Israel. It doesn't surprise all that much though because in the 1930s and 1940s when individual Jews, and small groups of them, were entering Palestine and buying the swampland the Arabs didn't want, draining them, creating highly productive farms, and creating communes for communities of Jews to live the sabras in those communes were pretty free sexually. As that was a long time before the "sexual revolution" in the US I'm not surprised that there is now a large LGBT community now..

Leon Uris, in his accurate historical novels Exodus and The Haj documents this behavior.
 

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I didn't know that about Israel. It doesn't surprise all that much though because in the 1930s and 1940s when individual Jews, and small groups of them, were entering Palestine and buying the swampland the Arabs didn't want, draining them, creating highly productive farms, and creating communes for communities of Jews to live the sabras in those communes were pretty free sexually. As that was a long time before the "sexual revolution" in the US I'm not surprised that there is now a large LGBT community now..

Leon Uris, in his accurate historical novels Exodus and The Haj documents this behavior.

So farmers become Sexual LGBT?

Is that what you are saying?
 

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So farmers become Sexual LGBT?

Is that what you are saying?

LOL. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Fer sure. ***rolls eyes***

The people living in those communes were very promiscuous. The logical progression downwards of a sexually permissive society leads it to descend deeper and deeper into the depths of immorality. The Babylonians, Medes and Persians, Greeks, and Romans all proved this. By the end of each of those empires they were so enervated and enslaved to their sexual excesses that they could no longer survive, i.e. hold their own against stronger civilizations that hadn't descended into the abyss of immorality like they had.

Read Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman empire and you'll see how the corruption of moral standards killed the Roman empire. The young Roman men were so effeminate that they wouldn't even fight for their own freedom and lives. They were far more interested in wearing women's clothing, women's makeup, and sleeping with other guys than they were of the fate of their own nation.

Hedonistic behavior always destroys a society because the "fun" gets less and less so the practitioners of hedonism live on a downward moral trend because as Paul Revere and the Raiders pointed out in the 1960s The Kicks Just Keep Getting Harder to Find. The Bible tells us the same thing.
 
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So farmers become Sexual LGBT?

Is that what you are saying?

LOL. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Fer sure. ***rolls eyes***

The people living in those communes were very promiscuous. The logical progression downwards of a sexually permissive society leads it to descend deeper and deeper into the depths of immorality. The Babylonians, Medes and Persians, Greeks, and Romans all proved this. By the end of each of those empires they were so enervated and enslaved to their sexual excesses that they could no longer survive, i.e. hold their own against stronger civilizations that hadn't descended into the abyss of immorality like they had.

Read Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman empire and you'll see how the corruption of moral standards killed the Roman empire. The young Roman men were so effeminate that they wouldn't even fight for their own freedom and lives. They were far more interested in wearing women's clothing, women's makeup, and sleeping with other guys than they were of the fate of their own nation.

Hedonistic behavior always destroys a society because the "fun" gets less and less so the practitioners of hedonism live on a downward moral trend because as Paul Revere and the Raiders pointed out in the 1960s The Kicks Just Keep Getting Harder to Find. The Bible tells us the same thing.




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Rotflmao.

Well thank you for you input.

have you ever seen the twilight Zone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbT1fCHOjfI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbT1fCHOjfI
 

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LOL. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Fer sure. ***rolls eyes***

The people living in those communes were very promiscuous. The logical progression downwards of a sexually permissive society leads it to descend deeper and deeper into the depths of immorality. The Babylonians, Medes and Persians, Greeks, and Romans all proved this. By the end of each of those empires they were so enervated and enslaved to their sexual excesses that they could no longer survive, i.e. hold their own against stronger civilizations that hadn't descended into the abyss of immorality like they had.

Read Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman empire and you'll see how the corruption of moral standards killed the Roman empire. The young Roman men were so effeminate that they wouldn't even fight for their own freedom and lives. They were far more interested in wearing women's clothing, women's makeup, and sleeping with other guys than they were of the fate of their own nation.

Hedonistic behavior always destroys a society because the "fun" gets less and less so the practitioners of hedonism live on a downward moral trend because as Paul Revere and the Raiders pointed out in the 1960s The Kicks Just Keep Getting Harder to Find. The Bible tells us the same thing.

Rotflmao.

Well thank you for you input.

have you ever seen the twilight Zone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbT1fCHOjfI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbT1fCHOjfI[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I've seen glimpses of the Twilight zone. I see it every time I talk to someone who is as fact resistant as you seem to be.

I see you're not much for reasoning from cause to effect nor tracing patterns of behavior from generation to generation. Sexual excess is just as debilitating, enervating, and destructive as drug addiction or alcoholism. It destroys the pleasure center in the brain just a surely so the person has to look farther into the depths of depravity to find something that seems to them to be more exciting.

Read Ecclesiastes some time and see what Solomon found out. And read what Paul had to say in Romans 1:21-28 about people who once knew God but don't want to listen to Him and keep Him in their lives. Those Jews knew better than to live promiscuously so they were refusing to honor God.. He gave them over to a reprobate mind and they have been destroying themselves with their excesses ever since.
 

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Rotflmao.

Well thank you for you input.

have you ever seen the twilight Zone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbT1fCHOjfI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbT1fCHOjfI

Yeah, I've seen glimpses of the Twilight zone. I see it every time I talk to someone who is as fact resistant as you seem to be.

I see you're not much for reasoning from cause to effect nor tracing patterns of behavior from generation to generation. Sexual excess is just as debilitating, enervating, and destructive as drug addiction or alcoholism. It destroys the pleasure center in the brain just a surely so the person has to look farther into the depths of depravity to find something that seems to them to be more exciting.

Read Ecclesiastes some time and see what Solomon found out. And read what Paul had to say in Romans 1:21-28 about people who once knew God but don't want to listen to Him and keep Him in their lives. Those Jews knew better than to live promiscuously so they were refusing to honor God.. He gave them over to a reprobate mind and they have been destroying themselves with their excesses ever since. [/QUOTE]

Are you telling me I can worship God Or Jesus unless I worship Paul?
 
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