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  • Right Divider
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    Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
    If you step back and think about what you wrote, you'd probably realize that it isn't a very good argument.

    There's a lot of research on this, and it's all very well-supported:


    Infant Behav Dev. 2018 Nov;53:90-100. doi: 10.1016/j.infbeh.2018.08.001.
    Exploring the morphological and emotional correlates of infant cuteness.
    Almanza-SepĂșlveda ML, Dudin A, Wonch KE, Steiner M, Feinberg DR5\, Fleming AS, Hall GB.
    Abstract
    Ethologists have observed that "baby schema" or infant cuteness is an adaptive protective mechanism ensuring the young's survival. Past efforts to quantify cuteness have been restricted to line measurement techniques. We developed a novel data-driven approach to quantify infant cuteness into a single metric. Using the Psychomorph program, we delineated facial elements of 72 infant pictures using 206 facial points and identified the facial components that were significantly related to subjective cuteness perceptions of the faces. 108 nulliparous females rated the pictures on cuteness and emotional dimensions. We found that cuter infants have larger cephalic curvature compared to a smaller chin, a big smile, and round chubby features among others. We also investigated the relationship between cuteness and emotional responses. Our results show that a greater degree of cuteness elicits both increased positive emotional responses and decreased negative emotional responses. Cuter infants also elicited greater feelings of alertness, interest, and the need to respond. In fact, the participants' emotional responses were predictive of both data-driven scores and subjective perceptions of cuteness.
    Funny stuff

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  • Stripe
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    Reminds me of the time one Darwinist heard a bird chirping differently from others and said: "See?! Evolution!"

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  • The Barbarian
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    Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
    Math is fine... some peoples non-objective math models are a different story.
    If you step back and think about what you wrote, you'd probably realize that it isn't a very good argument.

    There's a lot of research on this, and it's all very well-supported:


    Infant Behav Dev. 2018 Nov;53:90-100. doi: 10.1016/j.infbeh.2018.08.001.
    Exploring the morphological and emotional correlates of infant cuteness.
    Almanza-SepĂșlveda ML, Dudin A, Wonch KE, Steiner M, Feinberg DR5\, Fleming AS, Hall GB.
    Abstract
    Ethologists have observed that "baby schema" or infant cuteness is an adaptive protective mechanism ensuring the young's survival. Past efforts to quantify cuteness have been restricted to line measurement techniques. We developed a novel data-driven approach to quantify infant cuteness into a single metric. Using the Psychomorph program, we delineated facial elements of 72 infant pictures using 206 facial points and identified the facial components that were significantly related to subjective cuteness perceptions of the faces. 108 nulliparous females rated the pictures on cuteness and emotional dimensions. We found that cuter infants have larger cephalic curvature compared to a smaller chin, a big smile, and round chubby features among others. We also investigated the relationship between cuteness and emotional responses. Our results show that a greater degree of cuteness elicits both increased positive emotional responses and decreased negative emotional responses. Cuter infants also elicited greater feelings of alertness, interest, and the need to respond. In fact, the participants' emotional responses were predictive of both data-driven scores and subjective perceptions of cuteness.

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  • Right Divider
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    Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Barbarian observes:
    Yep. It's pretty much mathematical.

    (suggestion that math is not "objective.")

    I feel like the guy who said said he doesn't steal because it's dishonest, and someone says "you have a fun idea of honesty."
    Math is fine... some peoples non-objective math models are a different story.

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  • ok doser
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    Great strawman!

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  • The Barbarian
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    Barbarian observes:
    Yep. It's pretty much mathematical.

    (suggestion that math is not "objective.")

    I feel like the guy who said said he doesn't steal because it's dishonest, and someone says "you have a fun idea of honesty."


    Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
    False equivocation....

    Depends on how you feel about math, I suppose.

    just like you use for your "theory of evolution".
    Depends on how you feel about evidence, I suppose.

    "Evidence for not just one but for all three of the species level and above types of stratomorphic intermediates expected by macroevolutionary theory is surely strong evidence for macroevolutionary theory. Creationists therefore need to accept this fact."
    YE creationist Kurt Wise, Toward a Creationist Understanding of Transitional Forms

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  • Right Divider
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    Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Barbarian observes:
    Yep. It's pretty much mathematical.

    I feel like the guy who said said he doesn't steal because it's dishonest, and someone says "you have a fun idea of honesty."
    False equivocation.... just like you use for your "theory of evolution".

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  • The Barbarian
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    The science of cute: Why photos of baby animals make us happy
    https://www.dailyherald.com/article/...ife/160909974/

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  • The Barbarian
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    Barbarian observes:
    Yep. It's pretty much mathematical.

    Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
    You have fun idea of "objective".
    I feel like the guy who said said he doesn't steal because it's dishonest, and someone says "you have a fun idea of honesty."

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  • annabenedetti
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    Originally posted by Rusha View Post
    Not only do I feed mine while eating a meal, I actually go to the fridge to get them a treat just because of those puppy eyes.

    Same...

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  • Rusha
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    Originally posted by annabenedetti View Post
    When my dog would lay her head on my lap and look up at me with those puppy dog eyes while I ate my lunch... did I give her a bite?

    Yes. Yes I did... every time. How I loved that dog.
    Not only do I feed mine while eating a meal, I actually go to the fridge to get them a treat just because of those puppy eyes.

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  • Right Divider
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    Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Yep. It's pretty much mathematical.
    You have fun idea of "objective".

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  • The Barbarian
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    Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
    "objectively cuter"
    Yep. It's pretty much mathematical.

    First quantified by Konrad Lorenz. It's why, for example, dogs will adopt kittens, and cats will adopt puppies.

    Works with birds, too...

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  • Right Divider
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    "objectively cuter"

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  • annabenedetti
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    When my dog would lay her head on my lap and look up at me with those puppy dog eyes while I ate my lunch... did I give her a bite?

    Yes. Yes I did... every time. How I loved that dog.

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