True or False?

True or False?


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Clete

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Do you believe the following statement to be true of false?

Contradictions do not exist (ontologically). If you think you've found one, check your premises. You'll find that at least one of them is wrong.

If you don't mind doing so, please post how you answered and indicate whether you're an atheist, agnostic, Catholic, Calvinist, Arminian or whatever.

Thanks!

Clete
 
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ok doser

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Do you believe the following statement to be true of false?

Contradictions do not exist. If you think you've found one, check your premises. You'll find that at least one of them is wrong.

If you don't mind doing so, please post how you answered and indicate whether you're an atheist, agnostic, Catholic, Calvinist, Arminian or whatever.

Thanks!

Clete


I found one!


"Contradictions do not exist"


what do i win?
 

ok doser

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If you're not smart enough to understand the question, just ask and I'll be happy to help you with it.

one of my two statements in my first post is a contradiction

either

"I found one!"

or

"Contradictions do not exist"
 

Clete

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one of my two statements in my first post is a contradiction

either

"I found one!"

or

"Contradictions do not exist"

Again, if you do not understand the question, please just ask me and I'll help you with it.
 

Clete

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It doesn't seem like I should have to explain this but just in case the question isn't as clear as it seems to be, let me clarify....

I'm perfectly well aware that contradictory CONCEPTS exist but real ones do not. Contradictions can be stated but they cannot actually exist ontologically.

I can say, "All rabbits are white and all rabbit are black.", which would be a contradictory statement but in reality, both claims cannot be true, one or both are false.

I hope that clears up any confusion. If not, just skip it.
 

Tambora

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It doesn't seem like I should have to explain this but just in case the question isn't as clear as it seems to be, let me clarify....

I'm perfectly well aware that contradictory CONCEPTS exist but real ones do not. Contradictions can be stated but they cannot actually exist ontologically.

I can say, "All rabbits are white and all rabbit are black.", which would be a contradictory statement but in reality, both claims cannot be true, one or both are false.

I hope that clears up any confusion. If not, just skip it.
I'm still unclear.

If it is that truth can have no contradiction, I would say that's true.
But to say that a statement can have no contradiction, I would say that's not true.
(As in your example of black and white rabbits.)

I'm voting "true" because I believe your intent is to say that truth has no contradiction.
 

Clete

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I'm still unclear.

If it is that truth can have no contradiction, I would say that's true.
But to say that a statement can have no contradiction, I would say that's not true.
(As in your example of black and white rabbits.)

I'm voting "true" because I believe your intent is to say that truth has no contradiction.

Right. But even statements that contain contradictions do not describe anything that actually exists in reality, thus contradictions do not exist - in the ontological sense.

I edited the statement in the opening post.
 

ok doser

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sorry clete - i responded when you were still editing yesterday

my answer is....

Spoiler
potatoe!
 

steko

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Do you believe the following statement to be true of false?

Contradictions do not exist (ontologically). If you think you've found one, check your premises. You'll find that at least one of them is wrong.

If you don't mind doing so, please post how you answered and indicate whether you're an atheist, agnostic, Catholic, Calvinist, Arminian or whatever.

Thanks!

Clete

True.....ontologically.

Whatever is......is.
 

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Contradictions do not exist (ontologically). If you think you've found one, check your premises. You'll find that at least one of them is wrong.

Is "Clete" spirit or is "Clete" a sack of animated meat?
 

Clete

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No. This is a Hegelian argument, which tests the belief that nature follows God's plan, thus contradictions do not exist.
The question, in part, may me from Ayn Rand, although she is looking at the proposition from the wrong perspective.
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/aynrand163204.html
So is this a yes or a no?

This, by the way, has nothing to do with Hegel. Its a question based solely on the law of contradiction. A law which Hegel was very much aware of and used extensively but was certainly not the genesis of.
 
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