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    Studies Prove Homosexuality Is Not Genetic

    This is the show from Tuesday March 10th, 2015

    Summary:

    Mark Ellis of GodReports.com discusses his popular article, Identical twin studies prove homosexuality is not genetic. Eight major studies of identical twins in the U.S., Australia, and Europe all conclude that homosexuals were not born that way. Twin registers are growing from many tens of thousands towards record keeping on hundreds of thousands of siblings. Meanwhile, even studies with pro-homosexual authors show that about 90% of men and 86% of women with a homosexual twin sibling are themselves heterosexual. Regardless, to be a liberal, you have to believe that gender is nurture, that homosexuality is nature, and that lesbianism is a lifestyle choice.

    See also:

    - Newsweek's Lisa Miller on BEL
    - Bob Debates Homosexual Activist Wayne Besen
    - Focus on the History (of homosexual 'rights')
    Last edited by Jefferson; March 13, 2015, 06:55 AM.
    WARNING: Graphic video here.

  • #2
    I have not yet read the whole article.

    But could the same be said of heterosexuals? A choice rather than genetic?

    We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
    They already know monsters exist.
    We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Tambora View Post
      I have not yet read the whole article.

      But could the same be said of heterosexuals? A choice rather than genetic?
      Heterosexuality comes from a Biological Imperative for reproduction in order to perpetuate the species.
      _____
      Biological imperatives are the needs of living organisms required to perpetuate their existence: to survive. Include the following hierarchy of logical imperatives for a living organism: survival, territorialism, competition, reproduction, quality of life-seeking, and group forming. Living organisms that do not attempt to follow or do not succeed in satisfying these imperatives are described as maladaptive; those that do are adaptive.
      ______

      Homosexuality is a maladaptive trait that develops in organisms that are not seeking to perpetuate the species.
      Learn to read what is written.

      _____
      The people who are supposed to be experts and who claim to understand the science are precisely the people who are blind to the evidence.
      ~ Dr Freeman Dyson

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      • #4
        Originally posted by genuineoriginal View Post
        Heterosexuality comes from a Biological Imperative for reproduction in order to perpetuate the species.
        _____
        Biological imperatives are the needs of living organisms required to perpetuate their existence: to survive. Include the following hierarchy of logical imperatives for a living organism: survival, territorialism, competition, reproduction, quality of life-seeking, and group forming. Living organisms that do not attempt to follow or do not succeed in satisfying these imperatives are described as maladaptive; those that do are adaptive.
        ______

        Homosexuality is a maladaptive trait that develops in organisms that are not seeking to perpetuate the species.
        I get that.

        But let me play devil's advocate for a moment in a secular stance.

        If we now have the technology to perpetuate the species without two people (male & female) personally connecting in sexual intercourse, ..... then would it be valid to claim heterosexuals are still needed in order to perpetuate the species?

        We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
        They already know monsters exist.
        We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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        • #5
          [QUOTE=Tambora;4258352]I get that.

          But let me play devil's advocate for a moment in a secular stance.

          Keep on trying!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Tambora View Post
            I get that.

            But let me play devil's advocate for a moment in a secular stance.

            If we now have the technology to perpetuate the species without two people (male & female) personally connecting in sexual intercourse, ..... then would it be valid to claim heterosexuals are still needed in order to perpetuate the species?
            i argued years ago, that if everyone was gay, mankind would be gone in about a hundred years. then test tube babies, cloning etc. bottom line, IMO, it is never genetic. i detect in many cases an early pattern of "not feeling comfortable", not relating to, the opposite sex. self-esteem, confusion, maybe they want to "feel" better, then they do, so maybe it seems ok ? just opinion, obviously different in each case. i just can't stop relating it to circumstances surrounding the lives of folks, either early or later, and i will never see it as "natural" -

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            • #7
              Originally posted by patrick jane View Post
              i will never see it as "natural" -
              Good. Cause it's not.

              God created Adam (mankind) in His image.
              Afterwards, Eve came forth from Adam.

              The image of God was both of them together.

              Not male & male, or female & female, but male and female.

              We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
              They already know monsters exist.
              We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Tambora View Post
                Good. Cause it's not.

                God created Adam (mankind) in His image.
                Afterwards, Eve came forth from Adam.

                The image of God was both of them together.

                Not male & male, or female & female, but male and female.
                God speaks quite a bit to us about NOT being gay -

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Tambora View Post
                  I get that.

                  But let me play devil's advocate for a moment in a secular stance.

                  If we now have the technology to perpetuate the species without two people (male & female) personally connecting in sexual intercourse, ..... then would it be valid to claim heterosexuals are still needed in order to perpetuate the species?
                  With a single EMP, the technology would be rendered non-functional.
                  Yes, it is still valid to claim that heterosexuals will always be needed in order to perpetuate the species.
                  Learn to read what is written.

                  _____
                  The people who are supposed to be experts and who claim to understand the science are precisely the people who are blind to the evidence.
                  ~ Dr Freeman Dyson

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by patrick jane View Post
                    God speaks quite a bit to us about NOT being gay -
                    Yep.
                    And lusting, and fornication, and adultery, and murder, and liars, and divorce, and drunkenness, and theft, and trickery, and bribery, etc., etc., etc.
                    Every sin imaginable right on down to the very thoughts you have.

                    All of which are not God's image, and are unnatural from what God intended.

                    When you get right down to it, we are all unnatural.

                    We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
                    They already know monsters exist.
                    We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by genuineoriginal View Post
                      EMP
                      ?

                      We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
                      They already know monsters exist.
                      We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by genuineoriginal View Post
                        With a single EMP, the technology would be rendered non-functional.
                        Yes, it is still valid to claim that heterosexuals will always be needed in order to perpetuate the species.
                        electro magnetic pulse ? -

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by patrick jane View Post
                          electro magnetic pulse ? -
                          Could be.
                          I'm not sure what he meant.

                          We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
                          They already know monsters exist.
                          We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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                          • #14
                            Well unless 100% of cases of homosexual/bisexuality are down to 'nurture/environment' it's pretty obvious folk are simply wired that way. If you're heterosexual then you could no more "choose" to be gay than become the Eiffel Tower...
                            Well this is fun isn't it?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
                              Well unless 100% of cases of homosexual/bisexuality are down to 'nurture/environment' it's pretty obvious folk are simply wired that way. If you're heterosexual then you could no more "choose" to be gay than become the Eiffel Tower...
                              Incorrect. While it is about temptation and what 'temps' us, I did NOT act on that until marriage at the age of 27. Am I rare? Perhaps, but that isn't the point. The point is that sin is an act. If God told me to remain single, "getting married" (an act) would be for me, a sin.

                              Please listen:
                              In order to help young men and women combat sexuality/sensuality, Paul said: Treat all older women as mothers and all younger women as sisters, in all purity (and conversely, fathers and brothers).

                              If you are looking at a person of the opposite sex (or in this case the same) as if they were your brother/sister in Christ, belonging to Him, your life motivators become INCREDIBLY different. You treat the sister as if she belongs to another (Christ), and so tell her so when/if she were to even make advances: "Until God give you a husband, don't awaken love until it desires - Song of Solomon 2:7, 3:5, 8:4 You are my sister and my friend and unless God does the giving, another man's wife or God's alone."

                              Intojoy was getting at this with his Billy Graham thread. The reason we have failing pastors and church workers is because by and large, we fail to do as Paul says. We fail to treat others as creations belonging to the Hand of God. We all fail on this, but to whatever degree we have done so, we have lost sight of our calling.

                              All Christians MUST be against fornication, adultery, and homosexuality because it treats others as objects of human desire, rather than belonging solely to the God of the universe. When we love each other like sisters and brothers in Christ, all this sexual nonsense falls by the wayside because it is self-interested, not other interested at all. THAT is why I married my best friend. I couldn't see her any other way, until then. -Mark 10:9
                              My New Years Resolution: 1 Peter 3:15
                              Omniscient without man's qualification. John 1:3 "Nothing"
                              Colossians 1:17 "Nothing" John 15:5 "Nothing"
                              Mighty, ALL mighty (omnipotent). Revelation 1:8
                              No possible limitation Isaiah 40:25 Joshua 24:15
                              Infinite (Omnipresent) Psalm 145:3 Hebrews 4:13

                              ? Yep

                              Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think... Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21

                              ... when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. Titus 3:10 Ephesians 4:29-32; 5:11

                              Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

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