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  • Hello Lon

    Lon,

    Thank you for giving me opportunity to discuss what Jesus says about Christianity.

    My first question to you is:

    1) what does Jesus say about how to become His disciple or follower?

    Thank you again.
    Last edited by meshak; March 14th, 2017, 05:19 AM.

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    Perhaps not my place to intrude, but that has not stopped me in the past, but why don't you tell Lon and us what you think on the subject? It is your thread, after all.

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    • #3
      Matt. 16:24
      Without Genesis, absolutely nothing makes sense in all of Scripture.

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      • #4
        Lon is a Calvinist and will say that he doesn't do anything. He is as a brain dead person without a heart, and God will chose to make him alive for no reason except that he is Sovereignly picked.

        The Truth is that God tells us what to do to be saved, and we do it.

        God saves those who believe and obey Him.
        Oh how I love the Word of God!

        Do not just read the word do it.

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        • #5
          Jesus came and taught us the Way for a reason.
          Oh how I love the Word of God!

          Do not just read the word do it.

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          • #6
            Jesus says to do this and do that, and do not do this, and do not do that.

            Lon and other Calvinsits say, "No Jesus, I cannot and will not---but you, save me first."

            Jesus does NOT save unbelievers.

            There is NO scripture anywhere that says Jesus saves unbelievers.
            Oh how I love the Word of God!

            Do not just read the word do it.

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            • #7
              There is no scripture anywhere that says once we have been told God's word that we cannot believe it and obey it.
              Oh how I love the Word of God!

              Do not just read the word do it.

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              • #8
                GT, you are so censored.
                Originally posted by meshak View Post
                Lon,

                Thank you for giving me opportunity to discuss what Jesus says about Christianity.

                My first question to you is:

                1) what does Jesus say about how to become His disciple or follower?

                Thank you again.
                You need to believe in Him. John 3:16 (KJV)

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Nihilo View Post
                  GT, you are so censored.
                  You need to believe in Him. John 3:16 (KJV)
                  And what did Jesus tell those who believed in him that they are to do? He said to those who believed in him that they are to continue in his word, and that means live by what he taught. We are to be doers of the word and not hearers only.

                  John 8

                  As he spake these words, many believed on him.

                  Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by marhig View Post
                    And what did Jesus tell those who believed in him that they are to do? He said to those who believed in him that they are to continue in his word, and that means live by what he taught. We are to be doers of the word and not hearers only.

                    John 8

                    As he spake these words, many believed on him.

                    Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed
                    He said don't listen to fools like Marhig and GT, and I obey Him completely.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
                      Jesus says to do this and do that, and do not do this, and do not do that.

                      Lon and other Calvinsits say, "No Jesus, I cannot and will not---but you, save me first."

                      Jesus does NOT save unbelievers.

                      There is NO scripture anywhere that says Jesus saves unbelievers.
                      Yep that's the truth!

                      John 16

                      He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

                      Romans 10

                      If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved

                      Acts 16

                      And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved

                      John 3

                      He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

                      There's no such thing as predestination, we have freewill and a choice, to believe the gospel and believe in Jesus, or not. And once we believe we are to repent. If we don't believe and repent, then we are rejecting God and Christ. God doesn't save people before they believe, they must believe first to be saved!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Brother Ducky View Post
                        Perhaps not my place to intrude, but that has not stopped me in the past, but why don't you tell Lon and us what you think on the subject? It is your thread, after all.
                        I have been questioning Calvinists since I noticed Calvinism is not Jesus centered faith.

                        And I asked them why they dismiss my question about Jesus' word. I continually asked Lon about it, and he finally gave me permission to make a thread.

                        peace.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Nihilo View Post
                          He said don't listen to fools like Marhig and GT, and I obey Him completely.
                          What? Now I'm a fool for quoting what Jesus says? That we are to abide in his word if we believe in him. What's wrong with that? I'm just showing that we can't just say we believe with our mouths, we are to live it out and live by the word of God if we truly believe and yes we are to obey him.

                          If you obey him completely that's good, that means then that your are living by the will of God. And that's what we are to do!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Nihilo View Post
                            GT, you are so censored.
                            You need to believe in Him. John 3:16 (KJV)

                            I am sorry but I am interested in what Calvinists have to say about it.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by marhig View Post
                              What? Now I'm a fool for quoting what Jesus says? That we are to abide in his word if we believe in him. What's wrong with that? I'm just showing that we can't just say we believe with our mouths, we are to live it out and live by the word of God if we truly believe and yes we are to obey him.

                              If you obey him completely that's good, that means then that your are living by the will of God. And that's what we are to do!
                              To quoth Saint John W, you're a dirty rat, and yet your and GT's biggest concern is pointing out that others are dirty rats. And since we're all dirty rats, what gives you any right or authority in proclaiming that others are dirty rats? You're not a less dirty rat, you're just a plain dirty rat.

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