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  • Originally posted by Lighthouse View Post
    What guilt? I was three.
    You were three? That explains it.
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    • Originally posted by Lighthouse View Post
      Mystery was talking about the fact that God is still creating.
      Where?
      "Those who have crossed
      With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom
      Remember us--if at all--not as lost
      Violent souls, but only
      As the hollow men
      The stuffed men." ... T.S. Eliot

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      • Originally posted by Lighthouse View Post
        Mystery was talking about the fact that God is still creating.
        I assume you are not claiming that He is still creating through supernatural means?
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        • Originally posted by noguru View Post
          You were three? That explains it.
          Explains what? That's just when I got saved. I had no reason to feel overwhelming guilt. And I've only become more convinced of in the twenty-three years since.

          Originally posted by PlastikBuddha View Post
          Where?
          Look outside.

          Originally posted by noguru View Post
          I assume you are not claiming that He is still creating through supernatural means?
          How else? Since you don't consider God to be natural. Of course, if I'm right, then He is natural, not supernatural.
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          • Originally posted by Lighthouse View Post
            Look outside.
            That's already been "created". You said the process was ongoing. Where is this visible?
            "Those who have crossed
            With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom
            Remember us--if at all--not as lost
            Violent souls, but only
            As the hollow men
            The stuffed men." ... T.S. Eliot

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            • Originally posted by PlastikBuddha View Post
              That's already been "created". You said the process was ongoing. Where is this visible?
              Look closer.
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              • Originally posted by Lighthouse View Post
                Explains what? That's just when I got saved. I had no reason to feel overwhelming guilt. And I've only become more convinced of in the twenty-three years since.


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                You were saved when you were 3 years old? I always thought that being "saved" in the fundy way meant making a judgment about life etc that would be a bit beyond a 3 year old. However, if it means that your view of the world is stuck at 3 then perhaps I do understand your posts after all.
                "Against stupidity, the gods themselves fight in vain", G. Smiley

                "Send money, guns and lawyers..." W. Zevon

                "If it is possible for something to happen, that is evidence that it did happen." Stripe on TOL

                "There but for fortune...", P. Ochs

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                • Originally posted by Lighthouse View Post
                  Look closer.
                  At what?
                  "Against stupidity, the gods themselves fight in vain", G. Smiley

                  "Send money, guns and lawyers..." W. Zevon

                  "If it is possible for something to happen, that is evidence that it did happen." Stripe on TOL

                  "There but for fortune...", P. Ochs

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                  • Originally posted by Jukia View Post
                    You were saved when you were 3 years old? I always thought that being "saved" in the fundy way meant making a judgment about life etc that would be a bit beyond a 3 year old. However, if it means that your view of the world is stuck at 3 then perhaps I do understand your posts after all.
                    I'm wasn't your average three year old.
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                    • Originally posted by Lighthouse View Post
                      I'm wasn't your average three year old.
                      I suspect you have an rather inflated opinion of yourself. No three year old on the planet is able to make a theological determination. Nice try though
                      "Against stupidity, the gods themselves fight in vain", G. Smiley

                      "Send money, guns and lawyers..." W. Zevon

                      "If it is possible for something to happen, that is evidence that it did happen." Stripe on TOL

                      "There but for fortune...", P. Ochs

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                      • Originally posted by Lighthouse View Post
                        Look closer.
                        The closest I can come is sort of hypothetical quantum particle flux. I can't think of any other situation where things are being "created".
                        "Those who have crossed
                        With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom
                        Remember us--if at all--not as lost
                        Violent souls, but only
                        As the hollow men
                        The stuffed men." ... T.S. Eliot

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                        • Originally posted by Lighthouse View Post
                          Mystery was talking about the fact that God is still creating.
                          Photos of that would be fine too.

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                          • Originally posted by Jukia View Post
                            I suspect you have an rather inflated opinion of yourself. No three year old on the planet is able to make a theological determination. Nice try though
                            Why aren't they?
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                            • Originally posted by noguru View Post
                              If you were in an anti-gravity device would still expect gravity to keep you on the ground? How would you know that it won't?
                              Before I saw the device in action, I would assume that gravity would work. Once I saw evidence that the device defies gravity, I would change my understanding of when gravity works, so that it incorporates the effect of that device.

                              No proof. Understanding changes with the changing evidence. The methodology is the same.
                              "What if the Hokie Pokie is really what it's all about?"

                              "The best things in life aren't things"

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                              • BTW, the theory of evolution is somewhat more firmly established than any theory of gravity.

                                Both evolutionary and gravitational theory can make testable predictions which have been confirmed. But we still don't know why gravity works, while we know in detail why evolution works.
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