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  • #46
    Originally posted by bob b View Post
    So you agree that it is perfectly appropriate for an editorial in a scientific journal which claims neutrality regarding religion "critiques a theological concept"?
    Has it actually claimed neutrality or is this an invention or yours?

    Nice way to ignore my post, by the way.




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    • #47
      Originally posted by bob b View Post
      I believe that Christians have been too tolerant of the ravings of atheists and need to wake up.
      I believe that atheists, agnostics and skeptics have been too tolerant of the ravings of Christians and need to wake up!

      Bob, your response to this editorial should serve as a wakeup call as to what people like you are really up to.

      When atheists misuse their positions of trust in society to try to impose their world view on the rest of us, it needs to be pointed out that they are doing so.
      When Christians misuse their positions of trust in society to try to impose their world view on the rest of us, it needs to be pointed out that they are doing so.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by bob b View Post
        So you agree that it is perfectly appropriate for an editorial in a scientific journal which claims neutrality regarding religion "critiques a theological concept"?
        Do you think the journal Nature should be neutral with regard to the literalist Christian creation myth of Genesis?

        Should it not point out that a literal interpretation of Genesis runs contrary to established science?

        Or would it serve its readers better by ignoring the efforts of Christian creationists to misinform people about what science has discovered about cosmology, geology and evolution?

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        • #49
          Thanks for providing the context, johnny. I was suspicious when bob provided such a short standalone quote. When I went to Google for the phrase ""the idea that man was created in the image of God can surely be put aside", I was taken to tha magazines website, which required login. Then I noticed several Intelligent Design blogs that seemed to have isolated the same, short quote with a suspicious lack of content.

          BTW, does anyone know who the editor of Nature is? Is he even an atheist?

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          • #50
            Again, why does every difference of opinion have to incite violent language. Haven't we had enough stupid wars? It's an editorial.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by GeneCosta View Post
              Again, why does every difference of opinion have to incite violent language. Haven't we had enough stupid wars? It's an editorial.
              It was an editorial in a science journal that is supposed to be about science and not the promoting of an atheistic agenda.
              Random changes are destructive to any carefully crafted piece of work, such as a computer program, a novel or the genome of a lifeform.
              Matt 23:24Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

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              • #52
                Says who? You've yet to prove that the journal is or was supposedly "neutral" on matters of religion--outside your own opinion, anyway.




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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Granite View Post
                  Says who? You've yet to prove that the journal is or was supposedly "neutral" on matters of religion--outside your own opinion, anyway.
                  "However, science as a way of knowing about the natural world, restricted to explanation through natural processes, is neutral, not hostile toward religion. The primary interests and goals of science and religion are quite different. Science is restricted to using methodological materialism to understand and explain the natural world, whereas religion is concerned with the relationship of human beings to supernatural powers."
                  Eugenie Scott, Director of National Center for Science Education
                  Random changes are destructive to any carefully crafted piece of work, such as a computer program, a novel or the genome of a lifeform.
                  Matt 23:24Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

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                  • #54
                    Do they have any relationship whatsoever to Nature magazine?

                    Yes or no.




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                    • #55
                      When one's religious beliefs discount science, the adherent is going to view everything s/he disagrees with as "hostile."

                      As I said, it's an editorial, not a news article. Journalism 101: editorials are usually opinionated. A conservative columnist writing for the Washington Post isn't "instituting open warfare" against liberals. He's voicing an opinion.

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                      • #56
                        So, Bob.

                        Any other foolish observations you'd like to make? You seem to be interested in complaining and then changing the subject whenever someone asks you a question. As this organization has no affiliation whatsoever with Nature I will ask you again: can you prove the journal ever made a pretense of being neutral vis a vis religion, or is this a restraint you pulled out of thin air?




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                        • #57
                          Bob, do you think the journal Nature should be neutral with regard to the literalist Christian creation myth of Genesis?

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by bob b View Post
                            It was an editorial in a science journal that is supposed to be about science and not the promoting of an atheistic agenda.
                            What's the magazines name again? Oh yeah! NATURE! So it would probably be concerned with naturalistic, scientific explainations. That should hip you to their editorial stance on religious content.
                            "Those who have crossed
                            With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom
                            Remember us--if at all--not as lost
                            Violent souls, but only
                            As the hollow men
                            The stuffed men." ... T.S. Eliot

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by PlastikBuddha View Post
                              What's the magazines name again? Oh yeah! NATURE! So it would probably be concerned with naturalistic, scientific explainations. That should hip you to their editorial stance on religious content.
                              So why would the editor of a science journal feel compelled to blow off Christianity by telling us to not believe that we were created in the image of God?

                              Wouldn't it make more sense for him to stick to editorializing about science?
                              Random changes are destructive to any carefully crafted piece of work, such as a computer program, a novel or the genome of a lifeform.
                              Matt 23:24Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by bob b View Post
                                So why would the editor of a science journal feel compelled to blow off Christianity by telling us to not believe that we were created in the image of God?

                                Wouldn't it make more sense for him to stick to editorializing about science?
                                1. Because as was stated earlier it was in response to something said by someone else.
                                2. Because scientific illiteracy is a real problem in the United States, and a science magazine should take a stand against psuedoscience.
                                3. Saying that we were not created in the image of God is backed up by our scientific knowledge, therefore he is editorializing about science.
                                "Those who have crossed
                                With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom
                                Remember us--if at all--not as lost
                                Violent souls, but only
                                As the hollow men
                                The stuffed men." ... T.S. Eliot

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