Why I Don't Believe in Calvinism or Predestination

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Who knows?

Why are some people Democrats and others are Republicans?

People do have the ability to make choices, whether you believe it or not.
Oh, I do firmly believe we have the ability to choose and that we choose according to our greatest inclinations when we so choose.

So, for you, it is just random then? Why not try to be a wee bit introspective and discover that something more closer to the truth lies behind all these so-called "random", "who knows" thoughts of yours?

AMR
 

beloved57

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Who knows?

Why are some people Democrats and others are Republicans?

People do have the ability to make choices, whether you believe it or not.

Not Spiritual choices, they don't have the ability to obey and or please God while in the flesh Rom 8:8 !
 

Robert Pate

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Oh, I do firmly believe we have the ability to choose and that we choose according to our greatest inclinations when we so choose.

So, for you, it is just random then? Why not try to be a wee bit introspective and discover that something more closer to the truth lies behind all these so-called "random", "who knows" thoughts of yours?

AMR

I never ceased to be amazed at some of the people that I know of that have become Christians, including myself.

I was probably voted the most likely to go to hell.

But I heard the call and answered with a big yes.

God's Spirit is in the world calling all to come to Christ. They either come or they don't, its their decision.

"Today if you will hear his voice, harden not your heart" Hebrews 3:15.

"So we see that some could not enter in because of unbelief" Hebrews 3:19.
 

beloved57

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I never ceased to be amazed at some of the people that I know of that have become Christians, including myself.

I was probably voted the most likely to go to hell.

But I heard the call and answered with a big yes.

God's Spirit is in the world calling all to come to Christ. They either come or they don't, its their decision.

"Today if you will hear his voice, harden not your heart" Hebrews 3:15.

"So we see that some could not enter in because of unbelief" Hebrews 3:19.

Invalid comment, those God Called are Justified and Glorified Rom 8:28-30 !
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Why did you choose wisely and not your neighbor?

AMR

Why did the Israelite's choose to follow after their idols? (At times?)

The Bible tells us: "1 Timothy 2:4 "Who will have all men to be saved,
and to come unto the knowledge of the truth."

God wants ALL men to become saved. That is His desire. However,
man has a freewill to choose what he will place his faith in. Some
choose wisely, while others choose foolishly. Why do some men
kill, steal, lie, cheat, commit adultery, etc, while others, do not?

Why do some men choose to be drunkards and drug addicts, and
some do not? The answer lies in the truth that, all men have free-
will choice. Perhaps that's, a mystery combined with the truth?
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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All men are born in the flesh by nature, and can't please God! Much be born again first!

The sinner comes before God, just as he is. We're all lost sinners
until we hear the "Message of our salvation." (The Grace Message,
Paul's Gospel) Then, we must place our faith in Christ alone. The
Holy Spirit, indwells/seals, and baptizes (not by water) us into
The Body of Christ. Once we are in The Body of Christ, we cannot
lose that position.
 

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The sinner comes before God, just as he is. We're all lost sinners
until we hear the "Message of our salvation." (The Grace Message,
Paul's Gospel) Then, we must place our faith in Christ alone. The
Holy Spirit, indwells/seals, and baptizes (not by water) us into
The Body of Christ. Once we are in The Body of Christ, we cannot
lose that position.

If that is true and it isn't, you missed out _ couldn't make the cut and for obvious reasons all here have been given to witness from you. No offense intended.
 

Robert Pate

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The sinner comes before God, just as he is. We're all lost sinners
until we hear the "Message of our salvation." (The Grace Message,
Paul's Gospel) Then, we must place our faith in Christ alone. The
Holy Spirit, indwells/seals, and baptizes (not by water) us into
The Body of Christ. Once we are in The Body of Christ, we cannot
lose that position.

That is exactly the way that it is.
 

Nanja

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The sinner comes before God, just as he is. We're all lost sinners
until we hear the "Message of our salvation." (The Grace Message,
Paul's Gospel) Then, we must place our faith in Christ alone. The
Holy Spirit, indwells/seals, and baptizes (not by water) us into
The Body of Christ. Once we are in The Body of Christ, we cannot
lose that position.


Any profession of religion that teaches that one's Salvation is in any way dependent on what the sinner does is a false religion.


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Grosnick Marowbe

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Any profession of religion that teaches that one's Salvation is in any way dependent on what the sinner does is a false religion.


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Your "Hyper-Calvinist belief system" is a farce. You people believe
the God creates ALL sin! Enough said about you false teachers.
 

Nanja

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Many in false religion, make the claim that they have placed their faith in Christ,
as if by their performing of this work / action, that it results in their becoming saved.
But they are deceived.


Eph. 2:8-9
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves:
it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.


A man who has not been given John 3:27 Spiritual Life in the New Birth,
is a spiritually dead man, void of the Spirit of God, incapable of doing anything,
or performing any work in the flesh that pleases God.


Rom. 8:7-8 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:
for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Rom. 8:9b - Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.


The Faith that pleases God is a Spiritual Blessing which is bestowed upon
all the Election of Grace Eph. 1:3-4 in their lifetime.

That's why Paul refers to it as the Faith of God's Elect Titus 1:1.

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beloved57

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Many in false religion, make the claim that they have placed their faith in Christ,
as if by their performing of this work / action, that it results in their becoming saved.
But they are deceived.


Eph. 2:8-9
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves:
it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.


A man who has not been given John 3:27 Spiritual Life in the New Birth,
is a spiritually dead man, void of the Spirit of God, incapable of doing anything,
or performing any work in the flesh that pleases God.



Rom. 8:7-8 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God:
for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
So then they that are in the flesh cannot please Go
d.

Rom. 8:9b - Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.


The Faith that pleases God is a Spiritual Blessing which is bestowed upon
all the Election of Grace Eph. 1:3-4 in their lifetime.

That's why Paul refers to it as the Faith of God's Elect Titus 1:1.

~~~~~

Excellent Post !
 
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