Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 3

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Boy Traci, you're sure reading a lot into what Peter the pedophile Tatchell said in his Letter to the Editor.

That is rich considering the false witness you have engaged in concerning Tatchell

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Along with homosexual pioneer/icon Harry Hay, NAMBLA walks with Peter the pedophile Tatchell, former Obama "Safe School Czar" Kevin Jennings, HRC founder and accused pederast Terry Bean...

and I assume since you defend all of those degenerates...

NAMBLA walks with you too Traci?
 

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For pages 241-260.
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4180495&postcount=4712

There's all kinds of good stuff in these 20 pages: a transsexual who became famous for becoming pregnant was arrested for stalking his/her ex "wife" Then there's homosexualist Truths4yer who uses an analogy with antiperspirants and anticoagulants as a reason to keep homosexuality decriminalized.

There are a couple of very interesting posts that talk about the penalty phase against homosexuality when it comes to the Bible.
For those of you that are struggling with homosexual desires (or for those of you that have just given into them) I attached a link to "Ex-Gay Truth", which has helped many people change their desires and behavior when it comes to homosexuality.

The thread couldn't go 20 pages without an article or two showing how intolerant the LGBTQueer movement (which AFTAH's Peter LaBarbera states the LGBT movement now wants to be referred as) is against anyone that dares to speak out against homosexuality or it's agenda. I highlighted in red a HRC report establishing the need for a LGBT federal anti discrimination bill.

So there's never a dull moment when it comes to what the LGBTQueer movement and it's lost souls who consist of it are up to since the decriminalization of homosexuality.
 

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I'll give you the same fatherly advice that I gave Traci and you can pass it on to Peter Tatchell and others that represent your "community":

Stay away from children


You're so full of crap aCW, it's almost funny.

I feelz the love.

Sorry but your crocodile tears really aren't fooling anyone. :nono:
Could I just point out here that you campaign tirelessly against homosexuality, not the defence of children ...unless of course there is a homosexual involved and a tale you can use or spin. Just like you use your God and ancient scripture as and when it suits your homophobic agenda.
Seriously aCW my fatherly advice to you is that you really have absolutely no credibility at all... find some. :plain:

I guess you missed this post.
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4231507&postcount=5898

Face it Al, the indoctrination of children and grooming them for homosex is a huge part of the LGBTQueer movement and lifestyle. Be it pedophile organizations founded by well known homosexual activists; or well known homosexual activists who were arrested for possessing kiddy porn or having sex with underage youth; or gay pride parades where children are exposed to all kinds of moral depravity; or children's television shows depicting homosexual couples as "normal"; or a well known CNN anchor stating that she would like it if her own daughter engaged in homosex; or encouraging 5 year old boys to dress and act like a girl because nothing would make two man-hating lesbo mommies happier than having a boy become a girl; or a study denounced by the United States House of Representatives for saying that not all sex between adults and children is unwanted, abusive or harmful, etc. etc. etc.

Keep in mind Al that I've barely scratched the surface on this topic as I haven't even started the segment entitled:

Homosexual pedophilia and pederasty.
 

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Boy Traci, you're sure reading a lot into what Peter the pedophile Tatchell said in his Letter to the Editor.



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Along with homosexual pioneer/icon Harry Hay, NAMBLA walks with Peter the pedophile Tatchell, former Obama "Safe School Czar" Kevin Jennings, HRC founder and accused pederast Terry Bean...

and I assume since you defend all of those degenerates...

NAMBLA walks with you too Traci?

Again - you only bring up NAMBLA when one of your lies is exposed
 

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I'll give you the same fatherly advice that I gave Traci and you can pass it on to Peter Tatchell and others that represent your "community":

Stay away from children
yes Connie, stay away from my children


or a study denounced by the United States House of Representatives for saying that not all sex between adults and children is unwanted, abusive or harmful, etc. etc. etc.

Except that isn't what the study said and claiming so is just another lie
 

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Face it Al, the indoctrination of children and grooming them for homosex is a huge part of the LGBTQueer movement and lifestyle. Be it pedophile organizations founded by well known homosexual activists; or well known homosexual activists who were arrested for possessing kiddy porn or having sex with underage youth; or gay pride parades where children are exposed to all kinds of moral depravity; or children's television shows depicting homosexual couples as "normal"; or a well known CNN anchor stating that she would like it if her own daughter engaged in homosex; or encouraging 5 year old boys to dress and act like a girl because nothing would make two man-hating lesbo mommies happier than having a boy become a girl, etc. etc. etc.

Keep in mind Al that I've barely scratched the surface on this topic as I haven't even started the segment entitled:

Homosexual pedophilia and pederasty.
Apparently, in your mind at least aCW, the deeds of some gay people are more than enough justification for the criminalising of all of them, right?
However, by your "logic" since some heterosexuals also molest and abuse children then surely they should all be criminalised too. But in fact your "logic" rather seems to evaporate at this point for no apparent reason? :liberals:
Clearly your no doubt laudable interest in protecting children also tends to suddenly evaporate unless you think it can be used as ammo against homosexuals somehow.
Your sincerity is totally underwhelming aCW. :plain:
 

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Apparently, in your mind at least aCW, the deeds of some gay people are more than enough justification for the criminalising of all of them, right?

Laws don't work that way Al. If someone is caught doing an immoral and unnatural act such as incest, bestiality or homosexuality, then they are guilty of that crime (guilty once they are convicted in a court of law).

This thread is showing what happened and currently happens since homosexuality was decriminalized and why it should be recriminalized: The LGBTQueer movement's emphasis on children being a major reason.

However, by your "logic" since some heterosexuals also molest and abuse children then surely they should all be criminalised too. But in fact your "logic" rather seems to evaporate at this point for no apparent reason? :liberals:

If homosexual behavior were equal to that of what God designed for human sexuality Al, then you'd have a point. But since the two are worlds apart, back to the LGBTQueer drawing board for ya.

Clearly your no doubt laudable interest in protecting children also tends to suddenly evaporate unless you think it can be used as ammo against homosexuals somehow.
Your sincerity is totally underwhelming aCW. :plain:

Again, you must have missed this post:
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4231507&postcount=5898
 

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or a study denounced by the United States House of Representatives for saying that not all sex between adults and children is unwanted, abusive or harmful, etc. etc. etc.

Except that isn't what the study said and claiming so is just another lie

A study entitled "A Meta-analytic Examination of Assumed Properties of Child Sexual Abuse Using College Samples," published in the July 1998 edition of the prestigious Psychological Bulletin , resulted in enormous social controversy and debate. The study's authors, Rind, Tromovitch and Bauserman, analyzed 59 studies of college students and concluded that mental health researchers have greatly overstated the harmful potential of being abused. Despite finding that students who reported a history of child sexual abuse (CSA) were less well adjusted in 17 of the 18 types of psychological adjustment examined, Rind et al. (1998) suggested that the relationship may be spurious due to the confounding of CSA with family dysfunction. Rind et al. also reported that "men reacted much less negatively than women" (p. 22) and that "consent" was an important moderator of adjustment in males. They later summarized their findings, stating: "We showed that for boys in nonclinical populations, willing relations are generally experienced positively or neutrally and are not associated with maladjustment" (Rind, Bauserman, & Tromovitch, 1999, p. 2185). Rind et al. (1998) went on to suggest that when labeling events that have "heretofore been defined sociolegally as CSA," scientists should focus on the young person's perception of the experience: A willing encounter with positive reactions would no longer be considered to be sexual abuse; instead, it would "be labeled simply adult-child sex " (p. 46).

Not surprisingly, the study was immediately embraced by pedophile organizations. The North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA), a political and educational organization that advocates for the decriminalization of "consensual" pedophilic relationships, stated that the study confirmed that, "the current war on boy-lovers has no basis in science." NAMBLA also publicly thanked the American Psychological Association (APA) for "having the courage" to publish the paper (Saunders, 1999).
http://www.leadershipcouncil.org/1/res/dallam/5.html

NAMBLA and the APA: pedophiles in arms.

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Laws don't work that way Al. If someone is caught doing an immoral and unnatural act such as incest, bestiality or homosexuality, then they are guilty of that crime (guilty once they are convicted in a court of law).
Civil laws generally reflect the moral standards of the society that creates them, but they don't exist to enforce a supposed godly or even your own morality aCW.
You may choose to align the morality of homosexuality with that of incest and bestiality, but that isn't my view nor indeed that of society in general since we now live in more enlightened times even if dinosaurs like you haven't realised it.

This thread is showing what happened and currently happens since homosexuality was decriminalized and why it should be recriminalized: The LGBTQueer movement's emphasis on children being a major reason.
A lot of things have happened since when homosexuals were oppressed by the state aCW.
Btw I've noticed that if heterosexuals say they have a "girlfriend" or "boyfriend" it isn't automatically assumed that they are raving paedophiles. You otoh are perhaps rather too keen to take homosexuals quite literally on this, all boyfriends of homosexuals are literally boys in your world, all homosexuals tend to be paedophiles. Homosexuals just don't have consenting, responsible and safe adult relationships in your mind since that probably rather undermines everything for you.

If homosexual behavior were equal to that of what God designed for human sexuality Al, then you'd have a point. But since the two are worlds apart, back to the LGBTQueer drawing board for ya.
There you go again aCW being the self appointed spokesperson of God. You perhaps think that being God's representative on Earth gives you special powers perhaps to burn witches and heretics and to criminalise gays? :plain:

Remind me not to expect "fair and balanced" from anything you concoct aCW. :nono:
 

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or a study denounced by the United States House of Representatives for saying that not all sex between adults and children is unwanted, abusive or harmful, etc. etc. etc.



A study entitled "A Meta-analytic Examination of Assumed Properties of Child Sexual Abuse Using College Samples," published in the July 1998 edition of the prestigious Psychological Bulletin , resulted in enormous social controversy and debate. The study's authors, Rind, Tromovitch and Bauserman, analyzed 59 studies of college students and concluded that mental health researchers have greatly overstated the harmful potential of being abused. Despite finding that students who reported a history of child sexual abuse (CSA) were less well adjusted in 17 of the 18 types of psychological adjustment examined, Rind et al. (1998) suggested that the relationship may be spurious due to the confounding of CSA with family dysfunction. Rind et al. also reported that "men reacted much less negatively than women" (p. 22) and that "consent" was an important moderator of adjustment in males. They later summarized their findings, stating: "We showed that for boys in nonclinical populations, willing relations are generally experienced positively or neutrally and are not associated with maladjustment" (Rind, Bauserman, & Tromovitch, 1999, p. 2185). Rind et al. (1998) went on to suggest that when labeling events that have "heretofore been defined sociolegally as CSA," scientists should focus on the young person's perception of the experience: A willing encounter with positive reactions would no longer be considered to be sexual abuse; instead, it would "be labeled simply adult-child sex " (p. 46).
That's nice. However the study found that a small but significant portion of sex abuse survivors were not traumatized and did not look at the experience negatively.

The study did not find that was no no harm done to the children.
The study did not in any way condone sexual abuse.

It just found that some survivors of such abuse do not turn out traumatized and that such survivors need to be studied to find out just why.
 

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Laws don't work that way Al. If someone is caught doing an immoral and unnatural act such as incest, bestiality or homosexuality, then they are guilty of that crime (guilty once they are convicted in a court of law).

Civil laws generally reflect the moral standards of the society that creates them, but they don't exist to enforce a supposed godly or even your own morality aCW.

You've changed the subject from how criminal laws work (they punish people who break them and thus prohibit a criminal conspiracy as we're seeing with your LGBTQueer/sexual anarchist movement today) to what standard should be used for legislating and enforcing laws.

If you truly want to base laws on what society deems fit (i.e. evolving morality) then that society will get what it deserves (chaos followed by totalitarian tyranny).

You may choose to align the morality of homosexuality with that of incest and bestiality, but that isn't my view nor indeed that of society in general since we now live in more enlightened times even if dinosaurs like you haven't realised it.

Refer to my evolving morality comment.

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This thread is showing what happened and currently happens since homosexuality was decriminalized and why it should be recriminalized: The LGBTQueer movement's emphasis on children being a major reason.

A lot of things have happened since when homosexuals were oppressed by the state aCW.

One of the things that has happened is that HIV/AIDS and STD's (disease, misery and death) are disproportionately running rampant throughout your community. (Aint freedom great?).

Btw I've noticed that if heterosexuals say they have a "girlfriend" or "boyfriend" it isn't automatically assumed that they are raving paedophiles. You otoh are perhaps rather too keen to take homosexuals quite literally on this, all boyfriends of homosexuals are literally boys in your world, all homosexuals tend to be paedophiles. Homosexuals just don't have consenting, responsible and safe adult relationships in your mind since that probably rather undermines everything for you.

Again, I'm just pointing out the adult-child "relationship" that your LGBTQueer movement has. Does every person who engages in homosexual behavior like little boys or in the case of lesbos little girls? Heavens no Al! I've pointed out that 66 year old HRC founder and accused pederast Terry Bean had a 25 year old boyfriend (for when he got tired of "chicken hawking").

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If homosexual behavior were equal to that of what God designed for human sexuality Al, then you'd have a point. But since the two are worlds apart, back to the LGBTQueer drawing board for ya.

There you go again aCW being the self appointed spokesperson of God. You perhaps think that being God's representative on Earth gives you special powers perhaps to burn witches and heretics and to criminalise gays?

With you being the expert on Holy Scripture Al, if there is someplace in that great book that says that homosexuality is indeed equal to marriage between one man and one woman (God's design for human sexuality), I'm sure you would have found it.

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Again, you must have missed this post:
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums...postcount=5898

Remind me not to expect "fair and balanced" from anything you concoct aCW.

As I've known all along Al: You're not the least bit concerned about children's welfare.
 
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or a study denounced by the United States House of Representatives for saying that not all sex between adults and children is unwanted, abusive or harmful, etc. etc. etc.

A study entitled "A Meta-analytic Examination of Assumed Properties of Child Sexual Abuse Using College Samples," published in the July 1998 edition of the prestigious Psychological Bulletin , resulted in enormous social controversy and debate. The study's authors, Rind, Tromovitch and Bauserman, analyzed 59 studies of college students and concluded that mental health researchers have greatly overstated the harmful potential of being abused. Despite finding that students who reported a history of child sexual abuse (CSA) were less well adjusted in 17 of the 18 types of psychological adjustment examined, Rind et al. (1998) suggested that the relationship may be spurious due to the confounding of CSA with family dysfunction. Rind et al. also reported that "men reacted much less negatively than women" (p. 22) and that "consent" was an important moderator of adjustment in males. They later summarized their findings, stating: "We showed that for boys in nonclinical populations, willing relations are generally experienced positively or neutrally and are not associated with maladjustment" (Rind, Bauserman, & Tromovitch, 1999, p. 2185). Rind et al. (1998) went on to suggest that when labeling events that have "heretofore been defined sociolegally as CSA," scientists should focus on the young person's perception of the experience: A willing encounter with positive reactions would no longer be considered to be sexual abuse; instead, it would "be labeled simply adult-child sex " (p. 46).

That's nice. However the study found that a small but significant portion of sex abuse survivors were not traumatized and did not look at the experience negatively.

Or in the words of one of the UK's leading homosexual activists Peter the pedophile Tatchell:

"...it is time that society acknowledged the truth that not all sex involving children is unwanted, abusive and harmful."

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The study did not find that was no no harm done to the children.
The study did not in any way condone sexual abuse.

It just found that some survivors of such abuse do not turn out traumatized and that such survivors need to be studied to find out just why.

i.e. some of those 9 year old boys "wanted it".
 

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I think perhaps what Tatchell is not understanding in these reports of adult-child sexual encounters age 9-13, is that some of them may have had Stockholm syndrome: They identified with the abuser through a reaction formation, telling themselves, "That was not a bad experience, and was even a positive one which made me who I am today." Tatchell is taking it too much at face-value, and missing the psychological significance.

Then maybe at 35 or 40 they find themselves thinking, "Actually, that was traumatic, and took me down a road I should never have gone."

So these reports may, some of the time, be unreliable.
 

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Civil laws generally reflect the moral standards of the society that creates them, but they don't exist to enforce a supposed godly or even your own morality aCW.
You've changed the subject from how criminal laws work (they punish people who break them and thus prohibit a criminal conspiracy as we're seeing with your LGBTQueer/sexual anarchist movement today) to what standard should be used for legislating and enforcing laws.

If you truly want to base laws on what society deems fit (i.e. evolving morality) then that society will get what it deserves (chaos followed by totalitarian tyranny).
We first have to decide, as a society, what is not acceptable behaviour and then create laws to enforce it.
But all you can apparently offer aCW is a theocratic rule of law based on what you personally presumably think is an absolute godly morality that exists regardless of what society may deem fit.
However it's the likes of you who arrogantly think that they know what that absolute morality is and then presume to have a divine right to impose it on others.
Unfortunately for you aCW, in this lifetime anyway, other people's opinions count too. Perhaps that rather annoys you?
Oh dear, how sad, never mind. ;)

You may choose to align the morality of homosexuality with that of incest and bestiality, but that isn't my view nor indeed that of society in general since we now live in more enlightened times even if dinosaurs like you haven't realised it.
Refer to my evolving morality comment.
Perhaps it's your powers of verbal persuasion which is lacking, but that doesn't give you any right to forcibly impose your beliefs on those who believe something else.


Civil A lot of things have happened since when homosexuals were oppressed by the state aCW.
One of the things that has happened is that HIV/AIDS and STD's (disease, misery and death) are disproportionately running rampant throughout your community. (Aint freedom great?).
I don't know exactly what you mean by "your community", not being a homosexual I'm not part of theirs. STI's are simply a fact of life whether gay or not, but not a Godly retribution.

Civil Btw I've noticed that if heterosexuals say they have a "girlfriend" or "boyfriend" it isn't automatically assumed that they are raving paedophiles. You otoh are perhaps rather too keen to take homosexuals quite literally on this, all boyfriends of homosexuals are literally boys in your world, all homosexuals tend to be paedophiles. Homosexuals just don't have consenting, responsible and safe adult relationships in your mind since that probably rather undermines everything for you.
Again, I'm just pointing out the adult-child "relationship" that your LGBTQueer movement has. Does every person who engages in homosexual behavior like little boys or in the case of lesbos little girls? Heavens no Al! I've pointed out that 66 year old HRC founder and accused pederast Terry Bean had a 25 year old boyfriend (for when he got tired of "chicken hawking").
Then you're either trying to move the goal posts or you are being off topic in your own thread. This is about whether all homosexuals should be criminalised, in case you had forgotten. Because some gay people are also paedophiles is not a valid argument for criminalising all gay people any more than it would be true for straight people.


Civil There you go again aCW being the self appointed spokesperson of God. You perhaps think that being God's representative on Earth gives you special powers perhaps to burn witches and heretics and to criminalise gays?
With you being the expert on Holy Scripture Al, if there is someplace in that great book that says that homosexuality is indeed equal to marriage between one man and one woman (God's design for human sexuality), I'm sure you would have found it.
I'm reasonably sure that the word "homosexual" is not to be found in the Bible aCW, while sodomy indeed may apply to a homosexual act, but I can assure you that it is not exactly unheard of in heterosexual intercourse either (gasp).
Ancient scripture only seems to condone having sex that is intended to produce issue, I feel that the Bible is not too keen at all on there being any kind of sex for pleasure alone.:nono:
Your God is apparently only in favour of missionary sex between couples that are aiming to make babies, so any other form of sexual intercourse, gay or straight, is perhaps just as abominable as any other.:think:
You however tend to dwell on the gay sex and single it out particularly I've noticed rather than say adultery or fornication also being abominable.


Remind me not to expect "fair and balanced" from anything you concoct aCW.
As I've known all along Al: You're not the least bit concerned about children's welfare.
On the contrary aCW, I would say that I'm rather more concerned with all forms of abuse against all children, not just those where a homosexual is involved. :plain:
 

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I think perhaps what Tatchell is not understanding in these reports of adult-child sexual encounters age 9-13, is that some of them may have had Stockholm syndrome: They identified with the abuser through a reaction formation, telling themselves, "That was not a bad experience, and was even a positive one which made me who I am today." Tatchell is taking it too much at face-value, and missing the psychological significance.

And you gained this insight on Peter the pedophile Tatchell based on his Letter to the Editor?
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4234631&postcount=5977

If anyone was able to stomach watching the NAMBLA video above, one of the homosexual/pederasts (keep in mind that the vast majority of NAMBLA members aren't pedophiles, i.e. attracted to pre pubescent boys, but are pederasts, attracted to post pubescent boys) said that many of these boys come and visit these homosexual pederasts in prison.

People have to keep in mind also that these molestations are rarely out and out rape. As I've mentioned numerous times these homosexuals "groom" their victims. Here's a short article showing how "grooming" works.

How Pedophiles Groom Victims

Most pedophiles groom their victims in a series of predictable stages.
https://suite.io/debra-l-stang/pkm20r

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You've changed the subject from how criminal laws work (they punish people who break them and thus prohibit a criminal conspiracy as we're seeing with your LGBTQueer/sexual anarchist movement today) to what standard should be used for legislating and enforcing laws.

If you truly want to base laws on what society deems fit (i.e. evolving morality) then that society will get what it deserves (chaos followed by totalitarian tyranny).

We first have to decide, as a society, what is not acceptable behaviour and then create laws to enforce it.

I do believe that's been done already Al:

58 million abortions in the past 42 years, and the vast majority done out of convenience.

Indoctrinating children (and society in general) to accept sexual perversion as something normal.

Pornography available at the click of a mouse, etc.

But all you can apparently offer aCW is a theocratic rule...

Ah yes, back to that tired old argument (which homosexualist GFR7 used in the early stages of his never ending rant) that if you legislate laws that punishes behaviors that destroy the nucleus of society (the traditional family) then you're going to shove Christianity down everyone's throat and FORCE them to be a Christian.

Since no one can FORCE the love of Christ and eternal salvation on anyone, I do believe you're thinking about the false religion of Islam that you and other liberals love so dearly.

And yes Al, I'm...

moving on.
 

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And you gained this insight on Peter the pedophile Tatchell based on his Letter to the Editor?

Yes; why? Of course from reading his letter to the editor I could surmise that he may be making a psychological error in many cases, taking their words and actions too literally. Why do you ask? Why else would I suddenly chime in about Tatchell? :think:

Once again your rainbow colors are shining through GFR7.

The problem with people like Peter the pedophile Tatchell is not that they're making some kind of "psychological error", they're morally corrupt.

Anyone that dares to say that any child might have enjoyed a sexual experience with an adult is an out and out pervert.

But then those who proudly engage in homosexual behavior have no moral basis to begin with, so why wouldn't they be able to justify that some children actually "wanted" to have sex with an adult?
 
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