Why God Sees ALL THINGS In Jesus Christ

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Robert Pate said:
God the Father does not save. It is heresy to confuse the work of the trinity.
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Yes it is heresy, Robert, so try to avoid falling into heresy by attempting to instruct others on matters you so obviously get wrong. Given your many errors, why should anyone take what you have to say, much less fail to teach, seriously? :AMR:

There is but one will, not three, among the members of the Godhead. God the Father sends His Son to save sinners. God sends the Spirit through the Son as He pleases. The Covenant between the Father, the Son, and the Spirit is the foundation to the whole of our salvation. This Covenant encompasses three periods or time frames as it is worked out: 1) Eternity, 2) immediately after the Fall, and 3) at the time of the incarnation. These three comprise the plan by which the Covenant of Redemption (pactum salutis) is worked out in the history of redemption.

So much for your terrible claim that "God had no part in it."

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Ask Mr. Religion said:
Yes it is heresy, Robert, so try to avoid falling into heresy by attempting to instruct others on matters you so obviously get wrong. Given your many errors, why should anyone take what you have to say, much less fail to teach, seriously? :AMR:

There is but one will, not three, among the members of the Godhead. God the Father sends His Son to save sinners. God sends the Spirit through the Son as He pleases. The Covenant between the Father, the Son, and the Spirit is the foundation to the whole of our salvation. This Covenant encompasses three periods or time frames as it is worked out: 1) Eternity, 2) immediately after the Fall, and 3) at the time of the incarnation. These three comprise the plan by which the Covenant of Redemption (pactum salutis) is worked out in the history of redemption.

So much for your terrible claim that "God had no part in it."

AMR
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To attribute to the Father that which was accomplished by the Son is heresy, but don't let that bother you because most of what you believe is heresy.

Jesus and Jesus alone is the savior of the world, 1 John 2:2.
 
Nanja

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Robert Pate said:
To attribute to the Father that which was accomplished by the Son is heresy, but don't let that bother you because most of what you believe is heresy.

Jesus and Jesus alone is the savior of the world, 1 John 2:2.
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Jude 1:25
To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

Is. 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

John 10:30
I and my Father are one.
 
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Robert Pate

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Nanja said:
Jude 1:25
To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

Is. 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

John 10:30
I and my Father are one.
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Of course Jesus is God, but he is not God the Father. The Bible does not confuse the work of the trinity and neither should we.

You will not find a scripture that says the Father atoned for the sins of the world.
 
beloved57

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Robert Pate said:
Of course Jesus is God, but he is not God the Father. The Bible does not confuse the work of the trinity and neither should we.

You will not find a scripture that says the Father atoned for the sins of the world.
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You dont believe in Jesus Christ the Saviour of His People Matt 1:21, for you teach that sinners Christ died for are still lost. That means you dont believe that Christ's death alone saved them He died for !
 
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beloved57 said:
You dont believe in Jesus Christ the Saviour of His People Matt 1:21, for you teach that sinners Christ died for are still lost. That means you dont believe that Christ's death alone saved them He died for !
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Christ died for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2. But only those that call upon his name will be saved, Romans 10:13.

Guess that leaves you out.
 
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