Where did the races come from? Evolutiion, Creation or Other.

Jonahdog

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Stripe, I'm just trying to sort out the Neanderthal time line. If they were created during Creation Week, and if fully human, then Noah or one of his family would be Neanderthal. If they arose after the Flood then where did they come from and when.
 

Caino

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So Neanderthals were not destroyed in the Flood. Then, the Neanderthals, as a group, arose post Flood. Correct?

What I hear the YEC-ist saying is that they believe themselves to be Neanderthals. Its the only thing they have ever said that did lead me to pause for jus a moment.
 

Caino

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Stripe, I'm just trying to sort out the Neanderthal time line. If they were created during Creation Week, and if fully human, then Noah or one of his family would be Neanderthal. If they arose after the Flood then where did they come from and when.

According to the Bible Noah's kids started the races like Blacks in Africa, Chinese, American Indians, Australian aborigines etc. So we would assume that Noah may have had a Neanderthal son or daughter in-law.
 

6days

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According to the Bible Noah's kids started the races like Blacks in Africa, Chinese, American Indians, Australian aborigines etc. So we would assume that Noah may have had a Neanderthal son or daughter in-law.
Caino... You don't know what the Bible says. You are blind... leading the blind. The concept of race contradicts science and the Bible. All humanity is one race.
 

Hawkins

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They keep finding earlier remains of Neanderthals.

Neanderthals are almost TWICE as old as first thought: DNA suggests extinct human species emerged 700,000 years ago



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3233727/Neanderthals-TWICE-old-thought-DNA-suggests-extinct-human-species-emerged-700-000-years-ago.html


The whole theory is under the assumption that God doesn't exist. It become straw man under the circumstance that God exists. All human dating methods are based on the BIG assumption that planet earth is its current position (in terms of time-space) all the times from the beginning. We are lost if there's a time-space shift/change at some point.

God ever made sun stayed (frozen) to buy time for the Israelites to win a war. If God exists and ever manipulated the time-space of earth, there's nothing called dating methods for humans to measure history.

Moreover, common ancestry/evolution etc. are based on the assumption that no interbreeding ever occurred. If humans keep interbreeding with other species of homoerectus, and subsequently interbreeding to chimps and so forth, and back and forth. Then there is no trail left for evolution even when it is assumed evolution exists. As no one can tell if, say, Neanderthals are a result of evolution or a result of interbreeding of some 2 species of any kind.


To simply put, you have to assume that God doesn't exist in order for human dating methods to work at all. And you have to assume that no interbreeding ever occurred for evolution to be traceable.
 

Caino

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The whole theory is under the assumption that God doesn't exist. It become straw man under the circumstance that God exists. All human dating methods are based on the BIG assumption that planet earth is its current position (in terms of time-space) all the times from the beginning. We are lost if there's a time-space shift/change at some point.

God ever made sun stayed (frozen) to buy time for the Israelites to win a war. If God exists and ever manipulated the time-space of earth, there's nothing called dating methods for humans to measure history.

Moreover, common ancestry/evolution etc. are based on the assumption that no interbreeding ever occurred. If humans keep interbreeding with other species of homoerectus, and subsequently interbreeding to chimps and so forth, and back and forth. Then there is no trail left for evolution even when it is assumed evolution exists. As no one can tell if, say, Neanderthals are a result of evolution or a result of interbreeding of some 2 species of any kind.


To simply put, you have to assume that God doesn't exist in order for human dating methods to work at all. And you have to assume that no interbreeding ever occurred for evolution to be traceable.

The truth of old earth evolution just debunks the theory that the Hebrews creation story is factual. God created the life that was planted and evolved on earth over roughly 550,000,000 years. Evolution was characterized by a series o "sudden" mutations. Will conscious man is about 1 million years old.
 

6days

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Jonahdog said:
So, 6days, which of Noah's sons led to the Neanderthal group? Or, if Stripe is correct, which one was a Neanderthal or married to one? And, how do you know?
Have you ever been in a class where someone asks a goofy question, and everyone rolls their eyes? *Your question is irrelevant. It does not matter if it was from Noahs son...great great grand daughter or a combination of many people over many years.*


Lets discuss things we do know about Neandertals.*

* They were intelligent

* They had culture,

* They used herbal medicine

* They made Jewellery and used makeup

* They walked erect like we do.

* They were more physically robust than we are.

* Their brains were larger than ours.

* They cared for others.

* They ate grains and meat like we do.

* They were as capable of articulate speech as we are.

* Their range of physical characteristics is within range of people today.

* Neandertals had homes

* Neandertals had advanced tool making capabilities

* Neandertals buried their dead with ceremony.

* They likely had anout same amount of body hair as us


Now..... Shall we compare evolutionists false claims... to what God's Word tells us about humanity? Evolutionism is a false belief system. Science helps confirm God's Word.*
 

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So, 6days, which of Noah's sons led to the Neanderthal group? Or, if Stripe is correct, which one was a Neanderthal or married to one? And, how do you know?
Still bereft of simple comprehension skills, I see.

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George Affleck

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There is only one logical answer, but most have been taught one thing or another, but rarely is it "I don't know".

There are no "races".

There are people groups with physical similarities who dispersed after the Flood and were further separated by languages at Babel. Succeeding generations narrowed the gene pool locally within tribes and nations.

But there is only one race - human.
 
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