What would make you Catholic?

[chrysostom]

God can do that just fine.

when?

 

[Right Divider]

there is a big difference between orthodox and protestant
and
not so much with us and the orthodox

mostly in the faith vs works area

Always a false dichotomy from the RCC'ers.

 

[Right Divider]

when?

All the time. Maybe you should get to know Him.

 

[chrysostom]

All the time. Maybe you should get to know Him.

how many agree with you?

are they the only ones who know Him?

 

[Lon]

I am all for what is true
but
when you try to characterize the differences between us and the orthodox, I see two big problems

you may not understand the differences

Er, links. I'm simply summing up what the EO themselves say. You didn't bother to look at either, did you?

but
for sure
we don't always understand what you are saying
and
this is true with all calvinists

Ah, there it is. I knew there was a reason for your asking.... lain:

It wasn't my intention to touch a nerve, but I accept the consequences.

If Calvinism is really this big of a problem, you might consider putting me on ignore. I conversely, care about Catholics, though I disagree with them. I will not be putting you on ignore and have no problem building social, political, and sometimes theological bridges. However, when it comes time to defining the limitations of those bridges, I will certainly do so. I realize there may be hurt involved when the answer for ecumenical ties is "sorry no." It is not my intention to do so but the theological issues are real. -Lon

 

[Right Divider]

how many agree with you?

It does not matter and I do not care.

are they the only ones who know Him?

You try to impress with your fallacious logic. Instead it shows how foolish you and your 'religion' are.

 

[chrysostom]

It does not matter and I do not care.


You try to impress with your fallacious logic. Instead it shows how foolish you and your 'religion' are.

at least you recognize logic

it's a good start

 

[Right Divider]

at least you recognize logic

it's a good start

More precisely, I recognize your false logic.

 

[chrysostom]

More precisely, I recognize your false logic.

logic is like math

it can't be false

 

[Right Divider]

logic is like math

it can't be false

WOW, you really are dumber than I thought. No wonder you're an RC.

 

[chrysostom]

WOW, you really are dumber than I thought. No wonder you're an RC.

that is not logical

 

[Cruciform]

I constantly perceive you otherwise and have had reps indicate that others do too, as well as in thread comments even in this one with other posters. Again, you can either dismiss it or own it. I really don't care which, cruci, but I'm not a slouch when it comes to paying attention. You can try and make that everybody else's problem but that only makes you that much more crotchety in my mind. You can assume "falsely" all you like. Even Catholics have commented on it in the past. If you 'could' convince me of your man-preferred-choice-of-churches-that-has-nothing-over-on-me, I'd be proselytized, even with your terrible bed-side manner. -Lon

Already decisively answered---and corrected---in Post #423 above. Your excuses for glibly dismissing relevant information, however, are noted.

 

[Cruciform]

Matthew 7:16 is objective, not subjective.

Your (mis)interpretation and (mis)application of it, however, is decidedly subjective.

 

[SabathMoon]

Well, you have a nice evening, now.

"IGNORE"

Are you trying to say you are not interested in the original Greek meaning of the word?

 

[SabathMoon]

with more than 30 thousand different interpretations

we need someone to settle the arguments

While I respect thy comment, and thy hyperbole; it should be noted the EO interpretations are poor, and idolatrous. And the tradition which gives the interpretations where Peter died in Rome, not Babylon, and where Paul being accused of nothing is executed in Rome. With Paul, I see him surviving longer like Jonah, before being "raptured". And with Peter, we have Mark his son surviving the old man's relatively painless death in Babylon.

 

[oatmeal]

There's only one holy, Catholic, and apostolic Church.

So, I ask again, are you referring to the RCC or to the body of Christ?

 

[~JM~]

If the papacy was removed, the liturgy done away with...if the Roman church repented (which, due to the infallibility claim, it cannot do) and the anathemas of Trent are recanted.

 

[Lon]

Your (mis)interpretation and (mis)application of it, however, is decidedly subjective.

Your opinion is also passingly noted (I'm keeping no records).

Already decisively answered---and corrected---in Post #423 above. Your excuses for glibly dismissing relevant information, however, are noted.

Who said I dismissed it? "Glibly" no less? At the very least, you know how you come across to me. -Lon

 

[~JM~]

Just wanted to add, the catholicity of the church does not depend on the papacy, but the Gospel.

 

[Cruciform]

Your opinion is also passingly noted (I'm keeping no records).

Rather, the authoritative teachings of Christ's one historic Church, as opposed to the mere opinions of your favored recently-invented, man-made non-Catholic sect.

Who said I dismissed it? "Glibly" no less? At the very least, you know how you come across to me.

I did. That's just the way you "came across" to me.



Gaudium de veritate,

Cruciform
+T+