ECT What makes Preterism so impossible

patrick jane

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Wrong.

When Jesus told them: "When you see these things happen, keep your eyes open, because you'll know the time is near", they didn't think Jesus was talking about some Jews 2,000 (and still counting) years into the future who had made their way back into Palestine.

The Jews Jesus was speaking to, knew it meant THEM.

You make some amazingly ridiculous leaps of logic. What a mess preterism is !!
 

tetelestai

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You make some amazingly ridiculous leaps of logic. What a mess preterism is !!

Why would Jesus tell the Jews: "When you see these things happen, keep your eyes open, because you'll know the time is near", if He was referring to Jews at least 2,000 years into the future?
 

Danoh

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Wrong.

When Jesus told them: "When you see these things happen, keep your eyes open, because you'll know the time is near", they didn't think Jesus was talking about some Jews 2,000 (and still counting) years into the future who had made their way back into Palestine.

The Jews Jesus was speaking to, knew it meant THEM.

Never mind that Moses also used the word "you" when he prophesied to his generation that God would send them (Israel) the Christ.
 

john w

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Yes, Danoh is in denial.

That's because Danoh is a Darby follower.

All Darby followers are in denial.
All unemployed Russell/Josephus/Hanegraaf followers, such as no chin Craigie, are in denial, unemployed, obsessed, and ratted up in a hole, and are sodomites.


See how that works, little arms wimp/weasel?
 

musterion

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Who said Jesus came back invisibly?

You did. You were asked several times to identify sources in AD 70 who identified the destruction of Jerusalem as Christ's return. You always change the subject because preterism cannot provide this #1 fundamental piece of evidence that it needs to be taken seriously.

You are a liar and all liars will be cast into the Lake.
 

tetelestai

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The destruction of Israel in 66-70 is one of the most completely known events of its kind in antiquity

Yes it was.

However, the Darby followers have to adhere to historical revisionism, because Dispensationalism falls apart with what happened from 66AD - 70AD.

Dispensationalism is a cancer.
 

john w

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Yes, Danoh is in denial.

That's because Danoh is a Darby follower.

All Darby followers are in denial.
We see obsessed Craigie, the unemployed infidel, is again ignoring his "family" tonight, trying to get even, with us meanie dispies.

Do your children know that you are a loser, Craigie? Get beaten up recently, sweetie, and this is your outlet? Yes....
 

john w

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You did. You were asked several times to identify sources in AD 70 who identified the destruction of Jerusalem as Christ's return. You always change the subject because preterism cannot provide this #1 fundamental piece of evidence that it needs to be taken seriously.

You are a liar and all liars will be cast into the Lake.

Yes, gayboy Craigie:

"Jesus never physically returned, and never will physically return to planet earth after He ascended to Heaven"-gayboy Craigie Berstein.

vs.


“And that is what happened. The Lord came in a way that everyone could see Him. However, He never touched planet earth, and when this event was over, He then sat on the throne in Heaven NOT on planet earth.”-Tellafib


So, little arms boy-identify this "everyone," as you've been asked for 3 years, that allegedly saw this "un-physical" Saviour return, in AD 70, which was the Roman army, according to your "man made invention.," taught to you by this "bunch of" infallible men, which you refuse to identify, also,according to you..
 

tetelestai

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Wrong again mysteryboy.

You were asked several times to identify sources in AD 70 who identified the destruction of Jerusalem as Christ's return.

You just contradicted yourself mysteryboy.

You always change the subject because preterism cannot provide this #1 fundamental piece of evidence that it needs to be taken seriously.

Is there a temple in Jerusalem?

Has there been a temple since 70AD?

If your answer is "no", then you have been refuted mysteryboy.

You are a liar and all liars will be cast into the Lake.

Wrong again mysteryboy.

Those who do not have faith are the ones cast into the lake. Christ Jesus paid the price for all sins, including lying.

I'm not the one lying, you are the one who follows a lie. Dispensationalism is a lie.
 

musterion

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The destruction of Israel in 66-70 is one of the most completely known events of its kind in antiquity--except by D'ists who flit here and there and pretty much don't know church history.

No intelligent dispensationalist denies that. You are a liar and of your father the Devil (oh, right, you don't believe in a literal Devil).

Where intelligent dispensationalists disagree is in asking who, as a contemporary to AD 70, identified the destruction of Jerusalem as the "invisible" return of Christ.

Intelligent dispensationalists also deny the Christ of preterism, who of necessity would have us no longer living under God's grace by virtue of His (allegedly) wiping out the Jews in outpoured wrath. If they were subject to wrath, then grace ended and never started up again. So why isn't God opening the ground beneath the feet of infidels and striking dead false teachers like yourself? So many unanswerable questions false novelties like preterism lead to.
 

john w

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Wrong again mysteryboy.


You just contradicted yourself mysteryboy.



.. you have been refuted mysteryboy.



Wrong again mysteryboy.

Would you call him "mysteryboy," to his face, gayboy?


Real tough guy, are you, twitty weasel?
 

tetelestai

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intelligent dispensationalist

Oxymoron

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intelligent dispensationalists

Again, oxymoron.

There is no such thing as "intelligent Dispensationalists"

That's like saying "intelligent Mormons"

Mormons, like Dispensationalists, are followers of men.

John Nelson Darby and Joseph Smith were contemporaries, and both Mormonism and Dispensationalism were invented just about the same time.

Intelligent dispensationalists

Again, an oxymoron.

There is no such thing as an intelligent Dispensationalist.

Intelligent people don't follow the false teachings of men.

who of necessity would have us no longer living under God's grace by virtue of His (allegedly) wiping out the Jews in outpoured wrath.

It happened.

You can't fit it into your Dispensationalism, because your Dispensationalism is false.

There was an overlap of the covenants. The OC was fading away, and didn't fade away for good until 70AD.

If they were subject to wrath, then grace ended and never started up again. So why isn't God opening the ground beneath the feet of infidels and striking dead false teachers like yourself? So many unanswerable questions false novelties like preterism lead to.

Because post 70AD we now live 100% in the NC
 

musterion

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Would you call him "mysteryboy," to his face, gayboy?


Real tough guy, are you, twitty weasel?

Notice how, once again, he dodged the question.

The question is not, Was the Temple destroyed in AD 70? Only the ignorant would say it wasn't. IP just tried this dodge too.

The question remains, Who in AD 70 said it was the returning, vengeful Messiah who did it?

He'll say anything outrageous to distract from that question, or go away for a few days to avoid that question. Then he comes back pretending it was never asked. He's demonic.
 
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