What are the Real Reasons People Voted for Trump?

glassjester

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There is something terribly terribly wrong with the mind of someone who thinks that the Son of God/God in the flesh is for taking innocent life in the womb.

Definitely.
Thank God Mary was pro-life.

That being said: I have to give credit to Gurucam, because unlike many that voted for Trump, he knows that he and Trump think alike on the abortion issue.

If you're right, then let's hope, like Tim Kaine on abortion, Trump can keep his personal beliefs and his policies separate.
 

TweetyBird

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Trump implied that Gonzalo Curiel, the federal judge presiding over a class action against the for-profit Trump University, could not fairly hear the case because of his Mexican heritage.

When Trump was serving as the president of his family’s real estate company, the Trump Management Corporation, in 1973, the Justice Department sued the company for alleged racial discrimination against black people looking to rent apartments in Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island. When Trump was serving as the president of his family’s real estate company, the Trump Management Corporation, in 1973, the Justice Department sued the company for alleged racial discrimination against black people looking to rent apartments in Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island.

The New Jersey Casino Control Commission fined the Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino $200,000 in 1992 because managers would remove African-American card dealers at the request of a certain big-spending gambler. A state appeals court upheld the fine.

“And isn’t it funny. I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it,” O’Donnell recalled Trump saying. “The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.”

“I think the guy is lazy,” Trump said of a black employee, according to O’Donnell. “And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.”

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http://www.freep.com/story/opinion/...0/vote-donald-trump-consent-bigotry/93611290/

" A hundred people must have asked me since Tuesday about how I'm feeling, what my reaction was to Tuesday's outcome.

I feel frightened and worried -- for the first time ever after a presidential election. That's is how my family feels. This is how countless others who’ve reached out in the last few days are feeling. And yes, for so many people who don’t suffer the consequences of racial, ethnic or religious bigotry but spend their lives pushing back against it, this is how they feel, too.

America has turned its back on us, and has made us question anew whether it will ever really have our backs in important and substantive ways.

All the progress that has been made since this nation’s founding toward equality, toward full citizenship for people who have been locked out — it seems tenuous now, and threatened. It feels weakened, fragile.

That’s not new for anyone who’s part of an historically marginalized group. You grow up understanding that life for you in this country is different, and that you’d better keep your head on a swivel or risk jarring, unforeseen disappointments.

But this was such a crystal clear example, a stark and convulsing disturbance of expectation.

Let me be clear: I’m absolutely not saying that all people who voted for Trump are bigots. I’m definitely not saying that racial, ethnic or religious division was foremost in people’s minds when they voted Tuesday.

No doubt, the nation’s bigots supported Trump (the Ku Klux Klan broke with centuries of tradition and actually issued an endorsement for his candidacy) — but I don’t believe they make up the majority.

Indeed, what I’m saying is nearly opposite of that.

By voting for Trump, half of America simply said they were willing to accept, or risk accepting, the horrific bigoted consequences he promised to mete out, and they have justified that decision by elevating some other motivator — money, anger, job creation, political retribution — above the protection of other people’s rights. Of my rights. Of the rights of people I know.

That’s not overt bigotry. But it is a devaluing of equality.

Trump's voters were able to look past his consistent savaging of Muslims or Arab Americans, Latinos or African Americans, and vote for him anyway.

Which means that to half of America, essentially, we are unseen."
 

glassjester

Well-known member
By voting for Trump, half of America simply said they were willing to accept, or risk accepting, the horrific bigoted consequences he promised to mete out,

We didn't vote to decide who should be the best man at our wedding, we voted for the president.

It's about policy, not personality.


Snapple Fact: Thomas Jefferson owned black people. He cheated on his wife, too. Possibly even raped slaves. Awesome president, though.
 

kmoney

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I heard an interesting comment about how so many got this election wrong. I forget who said it but it was....The media took Trump literally but not seriously. His supporters took him seriously but not literally.

I think that's true to some extent.
 

King cobra

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Except the one's walking.
Ya gotta crawl before you can walk, and ya gotta be born before you can crawl.
Sort of like your stance on society- as long as they have a womb.

I see a lot of that with people, always claiming to be for all but dismiss all but one at the drop of a hat.
Dismiss? No.
But, if you had a hundred sheep, and one of them goes astray, would you not got to the mountains to seek the one that is straying?

Ironically made up by Romans who didn't like the idea of women having authority in matters of their body :rolleyes:
The command to not murder, in the Bible, made up by Romans? What??
It has never been held in Jewish history that abortion is murder. It is never spoken upon in the Bible, only references of fetuses as property and having a monetary value based on their sex.
The Bible states that Jesus Christ became flesh. What does that mean to you?
Yall don't help anybody.
To quote your poster boy..........“Wrong.”
Trump's not going to ignore the evangelicals.
Nor will he ignore Planned PareTheHood. After all,
“Planned Parenthood has done very good work...for millions of women” and “I am for the exceptions.” - Donald Trump
At the same time, he's not going to get rid of abortion because it is not something that can be done.
He’s not going to get rid of gang violence either. As such, should he not stand against it?
Why don't you pay attention to your own lip service- you say that men are accountable and you defend feminist ideology, even so far as to dump blame on men and void any responsibility for women to take.
Do you deny that men are to be held accountable for their rebellion? Your “me” colored glasses aren’t allowing you to see that I actually never said women have no accountability. In fact...just the opposite.
You see, women's literal liberation was birth control- it was outright declared as such. It took priority over everything else they 'fought' for (demanded). And so if you defend their so called 'liberation', you can never get rid of abortion.
I defend their rights from God, not the wrongs some, even many, have embraced. You see, the radical feminists want to become more like men. Unfortunately, men haven’t always set a good example.
I know you all suffer from extreme cognitive dissonance on this matter, so I don't actually expect anything else than the same drivel- but what I think is a shame is that you are willing to waste away at all that absurdity than to help fellow men-
I am trying to help YOU here.
YOU are the problem,
Rebellion against God is the problem. It’s been a long war.
and that's what makes this subject easy for me because I'm speaking literally at the people I'm speaking of.
Have you ever tried listening?
It requires no gathering of evidence or explanation :rolleyes:
Apparently. As you’ve offered neither to anyone’s satisfaction but your own.
 

TweetyBird

New member
A rising star with the Georgia Republican Party was barred from a meet and greet with presumptive GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump at the candidate’s rally in Atlanta on June 15. Michael McNeely was proceeding with other high-ranking Georgia Republicans to meet with the real estate tycoon backstage when he was intercepted by the Secret Service and hustled out of theater.

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In March, a group of 30 black students were removed from a Trump rally at Valdosta State University in Valdosta, GA. The students were reportedly standing silently in the bleachers, but were asked to leave. “We didn’t plan to do anything,” said Tahjila Davis, a 19-year-old mass media major. “They said, ‘This is Trump’s property; it’s a private event.’ But I paid my tuition to be here.”

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http://emorywheel.com/emory-student...h-administrative-response-to-trump-chalkings/

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A reporter from the news outlet Politico was ejected from a Donald Trump rally late Thursday " the latest sign of growing antagonism between the presumptive Republican presidential nominee and the press.

Politico reported that Ben Schreckinger had been typing on his laptop at the event at the San Jose Convention Center when he was approached by a Trump campaign staffer. After consulting with higher-ups, the aide and a private security staffer reportedly escorted Schreckinger out of the venue. Schreckinger had entered on a general admission ticket after repeatedly being denied press credentials for Trump events.

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Rev. Al Sharpton suggested that Republican Presidential Candidate, Donald Trump, "insults intelligence" of minoritily voters and that he is running a businessman with a history of discrimination against minorities within his business.

Mr.Trump also decided to skip major conferences held by the NAACP and other notable Civil Rights organizations.
 

King cobra

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What does pro-life have to do with the election? Why does it matter? We have abortion laws in place. They are not going to go away. A presidential candidate should not be held to either a pro-life or against it.
“What does slavery have to do with the election? Why does it matter? We have slavery laws in place. They are not going away. A presidential candidate should not be held to either a pro-slavery or against it.” - TweetyBird?
 

TweetyBird

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We didn't vote to decide who should be the best man at our wedding, we voted for the president.

It's about policy, not personality.


Snapple Fact: Thomas Jefferson owned black people. He cheated on his wife, too. Possibly even raped slaves. Awesome president, though.

I did not post what is attributed to me. Someone used a quote and attributed it to me, maybe on purpose, maybe ignorantly. Whatever ...
 

aCultureWarrior

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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
That being said: I have to give credit to Gurucam, because unlike many that voted for Trump, he knows that he and Trump think alike on the abortion issue.

If you're right, then let's hope, like Tim Kaine on abortion, Trump can keep his personal beliefs and his policies separate.

Yet Kaine accepted the VP nomination on a radically pro abortion political party.

Regarding Trump: I'm not aware that people set their personal beliefs aside (i.e,. their worldview) when it comes to politics, and if they do, can they be trusted?
 

TweetyBird

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“What does slavery have to do with the election? Why does it matter? We have slavery laws in place. They are not going away. A presidential candidate should not be held to either a pro-slavery or against it.” - TweetyBird?

I have not posted anything about slavery. Why are you saying that I did?
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
I did not post that.

yes, you did:

Trump implied that Gonzalo Curiel, the federal judge presiding over a class action against the for-profit Trump University, could not fairly hear the case because of his Mexican heritage.

When Trump was serving as the president of his family’s real estate company, the Trump Management Corporation, in 1973, the Justice Department sued the company for alleged racial discrimination against black people looking to rent apartments in Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island. When Trump was serving as the president of his family’s real estate company, the Trump Management Corporation, in 1973, the Justice Department sued the company for alleged racial discrimination against black people looking to rent apartments in Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island.

The New Jersey Casino Control Commission fined the Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino $200,000 in 1992 because managers would remove African-American card dealers at the request of a certain big-spending gambler. A state appeals court upheld the fine.

“And isn’t it funny. I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it,” O’Donnell recalled Trump saying. “The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.”

“I think the guy is lazy,” Trump said of a black employee, according to O’Donnell. “And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.”

==================

http://www.freep.com/story/opinion/...0/vote-donald-trump-consent-bigotry/93611290/

" A hundred people must have asked me since Tuesday about how I'm feeling, what my reaction was to Tuesday's outcome.

I feel frightened and worried -- for the first time ever after a presidential election. That's is how my family feels. This is how countless others who’ve reached out in the last few days are feeling. And yes, for so many people who don’t suffer the consequences of racial, ethnic or religious bigotry but spend their lives pushing back against it, this is how they feel, too.

America has turned its back on us, and has made us question anew whether it will ever really have our backs in important and substantive ways.

All the progress that has been made since this nation’s founding toward equality, toward full citizenship for people who have been locked out — it seems tenuous now, and threatened. It feels weakened, fragile.

That’s not new for anyone who’s part of an historically marginalized group. You grow up understanding that life for you in this country is different, and that you’d better keep your head on a swivel or risk jarring, unforeseen disappointments.

But this was such a crystal clear example, a stark and convulsing disturbance of expectation.

Let me be clear: I’m absolutely not saying that all people who voted for Trump are bigots. I’m definitely not saying that racial, ethnic or religious division was foremost in people’s minds when they voted Tuesday.

No doubt, the nation’s bigots supported Trump (the Ku Klux Klan broke with centuries of tradition and actually issued an endorsement for his candidacy) — but I don’t believe they make up the majority.

Indeed, what I’m saying is nearly opposite of that.

By voting for Trump, half of America simply said they were willing to accept, or risk accepting, the horrific bigoted consequences he promised to mete out, and they have justified that decision by elevating some other motivator — money, anger, job creation, political retribution — above the protection of other people’s rights. Of my rights. Of the rights of people I know.

That’s not overt bigotry. But it is a devaluing of equality.

Trump's voters were able to look past his consistent savaging of Muslims or Arab Americans, Latinos or African Americans, and vote for him anyway.

Which means that to half of America, essentially, we are unseen."
 

TweetyBird

New member
Explanation accepted.



I must have missed your words in the numerous threads where I was being called every filthy name in the book by Trump supporters for telling the truth about him. Surely I would have seen you saying those words...

I have never called one supporter of Trump a filthy name, or mocked anyone for supporting him. I am not a Clinton supporter. I am not a Trump supporter. For the zillionth time.
 
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