Warning: The Gospel You Preach Could Be Impure

Samie

New member
. . . If there is impurity in it!

The impurity is the doctrine that people are born in sin. Arminians and Calvinists both have this impurity in the gospel they preach.

If you still have this impurity in the gospel that you preach, better remove it or be cursed. See Gal 1:6-9.

Instead of born in sin and therefore born lost, people are born in Christ and therefore born NOT lost because Christ is the way (John 14:6). But we all sinned (Rom 3:23) and like sheep went astray (Isa 53:6), hence we are admonished to repent or perish (Luke 13:3,5).
 

Robert Pate

Well-known member
Banned
. . . If there is impurity in it!

The impurity is the doctrine that people are born in sin. Arminians and Calvinists both have this impurity in the gospel they preach.

If you still have this impurity in the gospel that you preach, better remove it or be cursed. See Gal 1:6-9.

Instead of born in sin and therefore born lost, people are born in Christ and therefore born NOT lost because Christ is the way (John 14:6). But we all sinned (Rom 3:23) and like sheep went astray (Isa 53:6), hence we are admonished to repent or perish (Luke 13:3,5).


The Gospel that Paul preached began with the fact that, "THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS,NO NOT ONE" Romans 3:10. None means just what it says "NONE".

To teach that you are born saved is a terrible perversion of the word of God.

"Wherefore as by ONE MAN sin entered into the world and death by sin; and so DEATH PASSED UPON ALL MEN, for that all have sinned" Romans 5:12.

Adam as our first father has infected the whole human race with sin. If you want to escape the consequences of sin you will need to believe the Gospel and be born again, 1 Peter 1:23.
 

Epoisses

New member
. . . If there is impurity in it!

The impurity is the doctrine that people are born in sin. Arminians and Calvinists both have this impurity in the gospel they preach.

If you still have this impurity in the gospel that you preach, better remove it or be cursed. See Gal 1:6-9.

Instead of born in sin and therefore born lost, people are born in Christ and therefore born NOT lost because Christ is the way (John 14:6). But we all sinned (Rom 3:23) and like sheep went astray (Isa 53:6), hence we are admonished to repent or perish (Luke 13:3,5).

Samie you were born a sinner and unless you repent of your delusions you will die as one. How anyone can look at the broken down wrecks of humanity we see every day and not understand we are sinners is beyond me.
 

popsthebuilder

New member
Samie you were born a sinner and unless you repent of your delusions you will die as one. How anyone can look at the broken down wrecks of humanity we see every day and not understand we are sinners is beyond me.
The actually expressed exactly that we ate sinners, yet not formed as such by the word of GOD.

Do clean out your ears friend. Don't assume the conclusion of one's own words due to presupposition. Do you too make the Holy Spirit out to be evil? Surely not; so then do consider your own doctrine and that that we do speak in hopes of communion with the Spirit and with all.

We can discuss it as slowly and carefully as needed; but first one must at least be open to new or different conclusions from one's already set in one's mind.
 

popsthebuilder

New member
. . . If there is impurity in it!

The impurity is the doctrine that people are born in sin. Arminians and Calvinists both have this impurity in the gospel they preach.

If you still have this impurity in the gospel that you preach, better remove it or be cursed. See Gal 1:6-9.

Instead of born in sin and therefore born lost, people are born in Christ and therefore born NOT lost because Christ is the way (John 14:6). But we all sinned (Rom 3:23) and like sheep went astray (Isa 53:6), hence we are admonished to repent or perish (Luke 13:3,5).
It will be necessary to expound upon how and why you have concluded such dear friend.

peace
 

Epoisses

New member
The actually expressed exactly that we ate sinners, yet not formed as such by the word of GOD.

Do clean out your ears friend. Don't assume the conclusion of one's own words due to presupposition. Do you too make the Holy Spirit out to be evil? Surely not; so then do consider your own doctrine and that that we do speak in hopes of communion with the Spirit and with all.

We can discuss it as slowly and carefully as needed; but first one must at least be open to new or different conclusions from one's already set in one's mind.

Unless you are Jesus or John the Baptist you were never born with the Spirit.
 

Truster

New member
. . . If there is impurity in it!

The impurity is the doctrine that people are born in sin. Arminians and Calvinists both have this impurity in the gospel they preach.

If you still have this impurity in the gospel that you preach, better remove it or be cursed. See Gal 1:6-9.

Instead of born in sin and therefore born lost, people are born in Christ and therefore born NOT lost because Christ is the way (John 14:6). But we all sinned (Rom 3:23) and like sheep went astray (Isa 53:6), hence we are admonished to repent or perish (Luke 13:3,5).

Perverter of truth.
 

Truster

New member
Ephesians 2:3

Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest.

Romans 5:12

Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned--
 

Truster

New member
A person does not really know or understand sin until they are saved from it. Being saved means the Father's wrath is lifted and that is unmistakable.
 

Epoisses

New member
I didn't say we are born with the Holy Spirit.

Just that we aren't natural born sinners. We are made sinners through greed/ societal norms.

You're a natural born sinner. Every night I watch the news and poor Johnnie gets gunned downed in the streets and his mama will always say he was such a good boy who never hurt anyone. It's human nature to deny the sin problem where we are all born carnal.
 

popsthebuilder

New member
You're a natural born sinner. Every night I watch the news and poor Johnnie gets gunned downed in the streets and his mama will always say he was such a good boy who never hurt anyone. It's human nature to deny the sin problem where we are all born carnal.
An infant is not naturally evil.

It is made so by the hands of man, societal norms, and greed.

Greed is learned.
 

Epoisses

New member
If you're not naturally evil then you don't need a savior and your whole religious experience is a sham.
 

Epoisses

New member
So if one learns to be evil and greedy they don't need a Savior?

There is potential for good and evil within an infant, both good and bad.

You really don't understand the nature of sin. It's not a learned behavior where the remedy is to attend school or some self-help seminar.
 

Zeke

Well-known member
All time related doctrine is doomed just like man is dead in time so is his future and past perceptions that disregard the timeless kingdom of his spiritual inheritance which is always at hand.
 
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