toldailytopic: Obama is asking to spend another 1.2 trillion $$, where does all this

some other dude

New member
Then keep paying them what you think you owe them. :idunno:

In reality, you are literally being robbed.

I borrow 12 grand at six percent interest to buy a car.

I buy the car.

The dealer gets 12 grand from the bank.

Over the next year, as per my agreement with the bank, I repay the loan with interest, $1060 each month.

At the end of the year, I've paid $12,720 for a car I've been driving all year and now own.


Explain to me how I am literally being robbed.

Or perhaps you can show me where I can rent a car for $60 a month. :idunno:
 

some other dude

New member
I borrow 12 grand at six percent interest to buy a car.

I buy the car.

The dealer gets 12 grand from the bank.

Over the next year, as per my agreement with the bank, I repay the loan with interest, $1060 each month.

At the end of the year, I've paid $12,720 for a car I've been driving all year and now own.


Explain to me how I am literally being robbed.

Or perhaps you can show me where I can rent a car for $60 a month.
 

elohiym

Well-known member
Explain to me how I am literally being robbed.

I am.

How much did the bank have to loan you first in order to purchase your promissory note?

Do they own your promissory note before they give you the "loan money?"

If the questions are beyond your comprehension, then just say so.
 

elohiym

Well-known member
Asking questions is not explaining.

I prefer a dialectic approach. You want to be lectured to. Fine.

The bank had no money to loan you. Your promissory note was fraudulently converted and used to expand deposits. The bank's assets and liabilities both increased proving the fraudulent conversion under GAAP.

Do you understand?
 

some other dude

New member
So what?

I rented a car for twelve months at $60/month.

And at the end of that period, I had bought a $12,000 car.


In what way was I robbed?
 

some other dude

New member
I still don't see where I was robbed. :idunno:


C'mon elo - if you can't explain it better than that, you must not understand it yourself.
 

some other dude

New member
Well, I don't like it, but I think you're not very good at explaining things.

Pretty good at making unsupportable statements though. :thumb:
 

elohiym

Well-known member
I still don't see where I was robbed. :idunno:

The following video will provide you with a sufficient understanding of the problem; but you will have to know how banks extend credit through deposit expansion, and have some knowledge of legal terms and principles, and know some Generally Accepted Accounting Principles, to understand how the bank fraudulently converted your promissory note when it made you an alleged "loan" and why that matters.

The Secrets of Oz
 

some other dude

New member
Then you explain how deposit expansion works.


I own the car and I've driven it for a year for $60/month.

What do I care about deposit expansion?

I own a $12,000 car. I've paid $12,720 so I wouldn't have to wait a year to buy it with cash.

What was I robbed of?
 

elohiym

Well-known member
I own the car and I've driven it for a year for $60/month.

If you have a "loan" for the car, the bank holds the title.

What do I care about deposit expansion?

You don't care where the 1.2 trillion being discussed in this thread came from? :doh:

I own a $12,000 car. I've paid $12,720 so I wouldn't have to wait a year to buy it with cash.

What was I robbed of?

If you received an alleged "loan" for the car, the bank fraudulently converted your promissory note.
 
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